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I experimented with the Q2 and Q4 quants. First impression is that it's amazing we can run this locally, but it's definitely not at Sonnet 4.5 level at all.

Even for my usual toy coding problems it would get simple things wrong and require some poking to get to it.

A few times it got stuck in thinking loops and I had to cancel prompts.

This was using the recommended settings from the unsloth repository. It's always possible that there are some bugs in early implementations that need to be fixed later, but so far I don't see any reason to believe this is actually a Sonnet 4.5 level model.

>>Aurorn+(OP)
I would not go below q8 if comparing to sonnet.

>>Aurorn+(OP)
> I experimented with the Q2 and Q4 quants.

Of course you get degraded performance with this.

>>Aurorn+(OP)
Wonder where it falls on the Sonnet 3.7/4.0/4.5 continuum.

3.7 was not all that great. 4 was decent for specific things, especially self contained stuff like tests, but couldn't do a good job with more complex work. 4.5 is now excellent at many things.

If it's around the perf of 3.7, that's interesting but not amazing. If it's around 4, that's useful.

>>cubefo+58
Obviously. That's why I led with that statement.

Those are the quant thresholds where people with mid-high end hardware can run this locally at reasonable speed, though.

In my experience Q2 is flakey, but Q4 isn't dramatically worse.

>>margal+j8
I still have yet to find a "Small" model that can use function calls consistently enough to not be frustrating. That is the most noticeable difference I consistently see between even older "SOTA" models and the best performing "SMALL" models (<70b).

>>Aurorn+er
> Obviously. That's why I led with that statement.

Then why did you write this?

> It's always possible that there are some bugs in early implementations that need to be fixed later, but so far I don't see any reason to believe this is actually a Sonnet 4.5 level model.

>>Kostic+Y6
Yeah. Q2 in any model is just severely damaged, unfortunately. Wish it weren’t so.