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In the last one year, we have seen several sandboxing wrappers around containers/VMs and they all target one use case AI agent code execution. Why? perhaps because devs are good at building (wrappers around VMs) and chase the AI hype. But how are these different and what value do they offer over VMs? Sounds like a tarpit idea, tbh.

Here's my list of code execution sandboxing agents launched in the last year alone: E2B, AIO Sandbox, Sandboxer, AgentSphere, Yolobox, Exe.dev, yolo-cage, SkillFS, ERA Jazzberry Computer, Vibekit, Daytona, Modal, Cognitora, YepCode, Run Compute, CLI Fence, Landrun, Sprites, pctx-sandbox, pctx Sandbox, Agent SDK, Lima-devbox, OpenServ, Browser Agent Playground, Flintlock Agent, Quickstart, Bouvet Sandbox, Arrakis, Cellmate (ceLLMate), AgentFence, Tasker, DenoSandbox, Capsule (WASM-based), Volant, Nono, NetFence

>>ATechG+(OP)
why? because there’s a huge market demand for Sandboxes. no one would be building this if no one would be buying.

disclaimer: i work at E2B

>>ushako+Be
I'm not saying sandboxes are not needed, I'm saying VMs/containers already provide the core tech and it's easy to DIY a sandbox. Would love to understand what value E2B offers over VMs?

>>ATechG+Hg
we offer secure cloud VMs that scale up to 100k concurrent instances or more.

the value we sell with our cloud is scale, while our Sandboxes are a commodity that we have proudly open-sourced

>>ushako+Ii
> we offer secure cloud VMs that scale up to 100k concurrent instances or more.

High scalability and VM isolation is what the Cloud (GCP/AWS, that E2B runs on) offers.

>>ATechG+(OP)
don't forget runloop!

>>ATechG+Hg
making a local sandbox using docker is easy, but making them work at high volume and low latency is hard

>>kommun+Xv
And shellbox.dev

>>kommun+kw
That's right. But they (E2B) rely on the underneath Cloud infra to achieve high scalability. Personally, I'm still not sure about the value they add on top of Cloud hosted VMs. GCP/AWS already offer huge discounts to startups, which should be enough for VM-based sandboxing of agents in the MVP phase.