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I disagree. There are deeper aspects in this tragedy.

I don't want to be called "leftist" because I don't want to belong to any tribe. But I do embrace a lot of the humanist ideals of the so called "progressives" and I think they might have some moral ground in here. But feel free to call me whatever you want.

In my perspective, the oppression in Iran is different from what is going on in Gaza. It is more like what happens in Belarus, Russia, Cuba, Venezuela, Turkey and Myanmar: it is an authoritarian government killing and oppressing their own people. I am not American but if the American government wants to kill innocent people in Minneapolis that is an American problem that the Americans should solve, because I respect the US sovereignty.

OTOH, I am ok with western interference in Gaza because Zionism is a racist project from one ethnicity against other, it is the racist government of a racist people committing genocide against another ethnicity. It isn't an internal issue of a sovereign state as much as apartheid wasn't an internal affair of the South African regime.

>>diego_+(OP)
> a lot of the humanist ideals of the so called "progressives"

To the best of my knowledge this is not progressive but christian in origin in our westerner societies... never mind you are not a christian. In the west it has been like that historically.

>>german+U3
Right... although you wouldn't know it if you took a look at the current Christian right in the US: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/is-empathy-a-sin-some-...

>>diego_+(OP)
> Zionism is a racist project from one ethnicity against other, it is the racist government of a racist people committing genocide against another ethnicity. It isn't an internal issue of a sovereign state as much as apartheid wasn't an internal affair of the South African regime.

And did you come to this worldview before or after October 7?

>>rob74+86
There is some discussion about creating a new term, "Christ-like" to differentiate from the current Christian right. A number of years ago there was a saying WWJD (What Would Jesus Do?) that epitomizes the new Christ-like term.

>>diego_+(OP)
> Zionism is a racist project from one ethnicity against other

Wait till you learn about the people they are fighting....

>>hersko+Gh
So?

>>fhdkwe+We
I have also heard the term "Christ follower".

>>fhdkwe+We
Or just call the current christian right "CINOs". Christian in name only.

>>arbitr+4A
> So?

I'm pointing out how laughably wrong your argument is when 20% of Israeli citizens are arabs while Palestinian territory is 100% jew free now that they got the last hostage out.

>>german+U3
Reading recommendation: Sylvia Wynter - the ceremony must be found. -> on the origin and complexities of the founding of the studia humanitatis - and s loz more (e.g. cybernetic epistemics in the biologies) well worth a read. There is a full pdf circulating freely online. Go make the best of your knowledge a bit better. You are not precisely wrong but the attributuion to christianity misses the important mutation in that the studia departed from christian orthodoxy