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If we give money to groups that aid and support the protection of illegal aliens, no sense in not outspending them.

>>cmxch+(OP)
You're suggesting a grassroots movement to outspend the US government, one of the wealthiest entities on the planet

>>cmxch+(OP)
Here you appear to be using "illegal aliens" as a synonym for "immigrants".

Groups that aid and support immigrants are doing a service that benefits America and all Americans; we should give them money so they can continue to help.

Immigration is of benefit to most nations; we are no different. But if and when you call immigrants illegal aliens, you're removing an important distinction and distorting reality.

Have you ever seen an immigration application? Ever examined the regulations that legal immigrants must navigate?

Legal immigration is a quagmire, but some would rather turn away from the swamp rather than drain it; some would like to pretend that immigration is the same thing as invasion, to justify the lazy approach that groups everyone together in an alien blur.

>>cmxch+(OP)
> illegal aliens

Do you mean "human beings"

>>metado+48
Apparently, a lot of people like cmxch aren’t familiar with the age depopulation bomb, where senior citizens start outnumbering everyone else like in Japan. We need immigration to keep economy healthy

>>cmxch+(OP)
How is this even relevant to the discussion at hand?

The issue from the article is that an "Immigration" agency used lethal violence against a _citizen of the US_.

This is not an illegal aliens issue.

>>lesuor+Yq
The original poster was the one that questioned the funding, so talking about funding is on topic. The illegal aliens issue is why they need so much funding. USA has a bigger illegal alien issue than any other developed country, so to fix that it makes sense they need more funding to try to solve it.

>>Jensso+pE
By definition a US citizen is not an illegal alien. OP is right to question if ICE should have an unlimited budget when they're clearly using that budget on things that are _not_ immigration (illegal aliens).

>>Jensso+pE
It is questionable that they need that much money, especially when it appears that a lot of the workforce is being used to suppress protests and work more or less as a private army of the convicted fraudster that Americans apparently thought it would be wise to provide the nuclear codes to.

Keep in mind, if you defined ICE as a military, it would be the thirteenth largest on the planet [1]. I have yet to see an argument or study that indicates that our immigration problem is costing us more than Poland's entire military, and I have seen a lot of evidence that immigration is a net positive in the US.

You could say something like "BUT, BUT, BUT HE'S ONLY GOING AFTER THE ILLEGALS YOU WANT ILLEGALS HERE HAHAHA WOKE LEFTY OPEN BORDERS <insert other idiotic conservative buzzword>", but determining whether or not the person in question is here "legally" clearly has not been the priority of this current administration and its weird militarization of ICE.

[1] https://www.nationalpriorities.org/pressroom/articles/2025/1...

>>metado+48
No, the comment is using a term that describes people who legally are not entitled to be in the country, to refer to people who legally are not entitled to be in the country.

Changing labels doesn't change reality. The complaint revolves around groups that are supporting people who are not attempting to go through legal immigration channels.