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1. tomber+u3[view] [source] 2026-01-08 23:09:34
>>hermit+(OP)
It's almost like giving a nearly-completely-unregulated quasi-military force unlimited funding, more weapons than God, and no clear goals other than "deport more people" is actually a really bad idea.

People voted for this.

Oh but hey, we at least made sure to pretend to save money by firing and then rapidly rehiring a lot of the workforce.

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2. cmxch+aD1[view] [source] 2026-01-09 13:58:13
>>tomber+u3
If we give money to groups that aid and support the protection of illegal aliens, no sense in not outspending them.
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3. lesuor+842[view] [source] 2026-01-09 16:31:15
>>cmxch+aD1
How is this even relevant to the discussion at hand?

The issue from the article is that an "Immigration" agency used lethal violence against a _citizen of the US_.

This is not an illegal aliens issue.

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4. Jensso+zh2[view] [source] 2026-01-09 17:29:16
>>lesuor+842
The original poster was the one that questioned the funding, so talking about funding is on topic. The illegal aliens issue is why they need so much funding. USA has a bigger illegal alien issue than any other developed country, so to fix that it makes sense they need more funding to try to solve it.
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5. tomber+Bn3[view] [source] 2026-01-09 22:57:29
>>Jensso+zh2
It is questionable that they need that much money, especially when it appears that a lot of the workforce is being used to suppress protests and work more or less as a private army of the convicted fraudster that Americans apparently thought it would be wise to provide the nuclear codes to.

Keep in mind, if you defined ICE as a military, it would be the thirteenth largest on the planet [1]. I have yet to see an argument or study that indicates that our immigration problem is costing us more than Poland's entire military, and I have seen a lot of evidence that immigration is a net positive in the US.

You could say something like "BUT, BUT, BUT HE'S ONLY GOING AFTER THE ILLEGALS YOU WANT ILLEGALS HERE HAHAHA WOKE LEFTY OPEN BORDERS <insert other idiotic conservative buzzword>", but determining whether or not the person in question is here "legally" clearly has not been the priority of this current administration and its weird militarization of ICE.

[1] https://www.nationalpriorities.org/pressroom/articles/2025/1...

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