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Inquiry, since I know anti immigrant sentiment is on the rise in other countries. How are other countries increasing their enforcement of their immigration laws? Are there also chaotic situations where their immigration enforcers are shooting people in cars? Are there better ways for rising anti-immigrant sentiment to result in stricter enforcement with less violence?

>>Kitten+(OP)
Now that you're mentioning, I'm surprised that, even though in some corners anti-immigrant parties rose to governing, they are only doing legislation and stricter enforcing immigration and border protection rules - not appreciated by everybody of course but somehow understandable where they're coming from. Might be somebody else knows more, or has seen more, but my one data point is: no nothing like that was ever hinted from what I can tell. And I'm appalled.

>>Kitten+(OP)
India has been deporting immigrants to Bangladesh/Myanmar and this includes Indian Citizens, because there is no due process being followed and court orders are being regularly ignored.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2025/07/23/india-hundreds-of-muslim...

> authorities forced another 40 Rohingya refugees into the sea near Myanmar, giving them life jackets and making them swim to shore

> the police raided his home, seized his mobile phone, and tore up his identity documents, which were proof of his (Indian) citizenship. They then flew him in a BSF plane (…) Sheikh said he was forced to cross into Bangladesh with eight others.

>>captn3+WY
I remember threads about this on HN back when the CAA Bill first dropped - you saw much of the same concern trolling back then, as if nobody could see what the real intent behind it was.

>>Kitten+(OP)
I'm from Russia. There's no such special department there, nor police shoots at anyone in a car. They do chase, then after some minutes, if nothing works, shoot at tires. There's no rule, nor drilling to shoot then think, nor to take a gun ASAP. There's no qualified immunity for police either. (Right-wing Russians, even die-hard Putin's supporters, in fact admire this side of the American police -- like "you don't stare at a policeman in America", they say.) The whole issue of detainees being shot -- that's not a problem there at all.

There is one department that's similar to ICE, the riot police called Rosgvardia (Russian Guard), which is anti-mass-protest force. When it was created, they hired all the normal police drop-outs, the worst. But they only carry batons.

The real issue with human rights in Russia is in courts and law application, and inside prisons, out of public eye.

>>Kitten+(OP)
Around the world, anti-immigrant sentiment is a minority viewpoint. At least it was in 2019

https://www.pewresearch.org/global-migration-and-demography/...

>>Kitten+(OP)
I’m in the UK. There is strong anti-ILLEGAL-immigrant sentiment, because hundreds of thousands of undocumented men originating in Africa and the Middle East have illegally crossed the English Channel from France and then made asylum claims, meaning the UK taxpayer is forced (by treaty) to house them and feed them. These are quite evidently opportunists. A large proportion are young fighting-age men, and most are fleeing countries where there is no current conflict.

As a taxpayer in a cost of living crisis I resent seeing hotels full of these chancers.

And I don’t think women and girls are safe with them around, given the staggering sexual crime statistics

https://www.migrationcentral.co.uk/p/up-to-third-of-sexual-a...

Call me “anti-immigrant” if you like. I don’t care. I’m voting for fairness and safety in the next election.

>>cbeach+pI2
I'm not really interested in your personal opinion about immigration. I don't really know why you decided to vent your personal grievance at me.

>>culi+Dx2
Neat, this goes against my understanding that anti-immigrant is a rising sentiment. Thanks for informing me of this.

>>culebr+8y1
Can confirm. Police will generally be quite gentle (even when they use weapons, they have to shoot a warning shot). Rosgvardia very likely will beat you up. Russian SWAT will for sure beat you up or shoot you.

Beating up and actual torturing may commence after you were apprehended.

But being shot during the ordinary police stoppage is not a wide-spread problem.

>>Kitten+ka3
I also think that anti-immigrant is a rising sentiment, and a lot can change in six years so I don’t think this discounts that feeling.