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Question for people who have trouble losing fat (this was never my problem): have you ever tried instead of dieting to just force yourself to eat more fruits, vegetables, and protein daily while also allowing yourself free range in the remaining appetite room to have whatever? The human mind/brain/whatever doesn't do well with deprivation of a high dopamine reward, but what would happen if you started to shift your tastes by insisting that it get used to a more healthful diet as a precursor to getting what it wants?

I ask this because when I was younger, I also had tastebuds warped by hyper-palatable foods, but after incrementally getting my diet to such a clean and optimized place, I literally feel bad even while chewing and tasting something like a donut, heavily salted and oiled potato chips, or candy. It's probably like how I would have felt if I literally mixed a tablespoon of oil and sugar or salt together and swallowed it.

Is it that hard to shift the system toward better habits by incremental introduction of better ones, and crowding out the bad? Exercise helps here, because once you begin to enjoy fitness, you get a stronger feedback loop with the bad food creating bad outcomes.

>>lr4444+(OP)
Yes, I gained weight anyway. Sad, I hoped that was going to be my fix.

Also, not everybody enjoys fitness.

I don't like it. I still go 5 times per week and have been doing it consistently for the last 2.5 years

I'm muscular, a bit overweight.

>>lr4444+(OP)
One of my friends ate two pounds of tomatoes every evening and would not feel full. I couldn’t believe it until I saw it with my eyes….

>>shadow+FS1
I feel like they should try the potato diet. I recommend it, not because I believe it is effective (it wasn't for me), but because it is very good at removing the pleasure from eating. When you are eating to survive, you will come to understand how what being sated is. From there, I found I could lose weight because I had broken the habit of eating for any other reason than to fuel myself. Although, admittedly, I enjoyed losing weight this way better than the potato diet.

With some people, I think they have just lost what being sated feels like.