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1. maleld+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-09-23 10:32:52
"People" have differing opinions, but the one I mostly see from the left is that they want Palestinians to live in the land they owned before Israeli colonisers invaded it and forced them to relocate to subhuman conditions. What I haven't seen is the desire to expel the Israelis currently living there, as long as they agree to let the Palestinians lead a decent life.
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2. kgwgk+P3[view] [source] 2025-09-23 11:10:55
>>maleld+(OP)
You have never seen the slogan “from the river to the sea”?

https://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/HHP...

Do you think that the long-term answer to the Israel-Palestinian dispute is for Arab states to absorb the Palestinians, for there to be two states, Israel and Palestine, or for Israel to be ended and given to Hamas and the Palestinians?

51% in the 18-24 group chose the third option.

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3. maleld+8t3[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-09-24 10:33:52
>>kgwgk+P3
When the Israeli government says it, they mean removing or exterminating all Palestinians on "their" land. When Palestinians and their allies say it, they mean they want to live in their land without fearing for their lives.
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4. kgwgk+hC3[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-09-24 11:51:04
>>maleld+8t3
Not sure what land is “their” land in the first sentence but the are as many Palestinians citizens of Israel as there are Palestinians living in Gaza - and I don’t think the former fear much more for their lives than other citizens of Israel.

Maybe you don’t think that most college-age people in the US - who according to that survey would like Israel to be ended and given to Hamas and the Palestinians rather than see a two-state solution - are allies of Palestinians but surely they are not allies of Israel.

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