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So if I understand correctly, people want a state for the Palestinian people. But they do not accept that people want a state for the Danish people.

Is that it?

>>simian+(OP)
Ethnostates are a terrible idea regardless of whose ethnicity we're talking about, because they can only be maintained by violence.

The state of Palestine is an answer to the question of "what nationality do the residents of Gaza and the West Bank have?"

>>simian+(OP)
"People" have differing opinions, but the one I mostly see from the left is that they want Palestinians to live in the land they owned before Israeli colonisers invaded it and forced them to relocate to subhuman conditions. What I haven't seen is the desire to expel the Israelis currently living there, as long as they agree to let the Palestinians lead a decent life.

>>maleld+Gj
You have never seen the slogan “from the river to the sea”?

https://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/HHP...

Do you think that the long-term answer to the Israel-Palestinian dispute is for Arab states to absorb the Palestinians, for there to be two states, Israel and Palestine, or for Israel to be ended and given to Hamas and the Palestinians?

51% in the 18-24 group chose the third option.

>>simian+(OP)
This comment is so off the rails I'm not going to bother responding to it, but it does make me think about why political discourse is so deeply broken today.

When someone lives this far into an alternate relatity it leaves basically no room for discussion. The amount of work that has to be done just to get everyone back to some relative place of sanity is damn near insurmountable. It leaves no time or energy left to have an actual discussion.

>>kgwgk+vn
When the Israeli government says it, they mean removing or exterminating all Palestinians on "their" land. When Palestinians and their allies say it, they mean they want to live in their land without fearing for their lives.

>>maleld+OM3
Not sure what land is “their” land in the first sentence but the are as many Palestinians citizens of Israel as there are Palestinians living in Gaza - and I don’t think the former fear much more for their lives than other citizens of Israel.

Maybe you don’t think that most college-age people in the US - who according to that survey would like Israel to be ended and given to Hamas and the Palestinians rather than see a two-state solution - are allies of Palestinians but surely they are not allies of Israel.