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1. OutOfH+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-09-07 17:10:26
That is a misrepresentation because Samsung, Huawei, and various Linux vendors each will have their own answer, their own alterative. In no universe will Apple be without competition. Apple is not even a consideration since it doesn't allow unapproved app installation anyway.
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2. odo124+n1[view] [source] 2025-09-07 17:17:49
>>OutOfH+(OP)
Android only ever had a chance because it is one ecosystem. Developers aren't going to develop for five slightly-different ecosystems in a trench coat.
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3. OutOfH+z1[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-09-07 17:18:37
>>odo124+n1
> Developers aren't going to develop for five slightly-different ecosystems

The point, perhaps, is for one to emerge as the prominent choice, the correct one. Diversity however has its own value.

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4. charci+12[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-09-07 17:20:47
>>odo124+n1
There already are multiple different android ecosystems today. For example Samsung has SDKs that have features when targeting their flavor of Android. There will still be a common base.
5. palata+i2[view] [source] 2025-09-07 17:22:03
>>OutOfH+(OP)
It is a shame that those companies don't contribute to AOSP (or fork it). Apparently Huawei decided that they would do better alone with their own HarmonyOS, but I don't get it. It could be so powerful if AOSP was actually shared between the Android manufacturers...

I would happily leave Android and go with such a fork. Instead, each (Samsung, Huawei, ...) try to make their own thing. And good luck to them to beat Android on their own.

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6. palata+O2[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-09-07 17:24:33
>>OutOfH+z1
I wish Android manufacturers contributed to AOSP, so that it would still be one ecosystem, but with shared ownership. But I guess it's more profitable for all of them to let Google do it on their own. And it sucks for the user, because we have to live with Google's decisions.
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7. folmar+Xb[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-09-07 18:16:03
>>odo124+n1
This ship has sailed, in the past Amazon's store did not succeed a lot, but there are already a few important enough offsprings: * Huawei with separate store and no Gapps * Samsung with importantly different browser and ton of extra features, also another store * in China the app-in-wechat and similar are a major thing

If you develop for a diverse set of user you need a lot of effort.

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8. chasil+wh[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-09-07 18:56:28
>>odo124+n1
Apps that run on the Kindle Fire can't use Google Mobile Services, and the Amazon appstore is missing many well-known titles.

The Play Store is mostly absent from China, and I really don't know how that ecosystem works.

Was there one ecosystem?

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9. izacus+Vw[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-09-07 20:57:05
>>chasil+wh
You're too young to remember Symbian and Java phone ecosystem mess, are you? Or even Android of around 2.x era, where getting an app doesn't mean it works on your phone?
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10. OutOfH+cH[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-09-07 22:20:17
>>palata+O2
But does Google accept third-party contributions for AOSP?
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11. charci+FH[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-09-07 22:24:02
>>OutOfH+cH
Yes, anyone is free to contribute to AOSP and many manufacturers already do.

https://source.android.com/docs/setup/contribute/submit-patc...

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12. chasil+541[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-09-08 02:15:15
>>izacus+Vw
Oh, my sweet summer child, my first classroom exposure was CP/M.
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13. izacus+pz1[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-09-08 08:59:02
>>chasil+541
Then you should know better :))
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14. chasil+1D1[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-09-08 09:37:48
>>izacus+pz1
I am within a year of retirement, and you think I should care?
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