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1. e28eta+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-08-30 05:32:29
To be pedantic: Opt-shift-hyphen for the em dash (longer one). Opt-hyphen only gets you an en dash.
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2. 9dev+01[view] [source] 2025-08-30 05:49:35
>>e28eta+(OP)
…which is the appropriate character for ranges, i.e., page 1–2.

I find it a bit sad that using proper typography is now frowned upon, but it seems that ship has sailed.

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3. machin+51[view] [source] 2025-08-30 05:50:44
>>e28eta+(OP)
Right, you sniped my edit. I don't know why I gave up my hn delay setting...
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4. Symbio+lb[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-08-30 08:02:58
>>9dev+01
From the discussion with our head of communications (whose pedantry I approve of) US usage avoids spaces—like this—and should use an em-dash.

But British usage – instead – uses spaces, so an en-dash or an em-dash is acceptable.

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5. saagar+6e[view] [source] 2025-08-30 08:36:23
>>e28eta+(OP)
One of the reasons I'm not on that page–I have a policy of using en dashes because I am lazy
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6. d1sxey+dG[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-08-30 13:57:33
>>Symbio+lb
Generally spaces around em-dashes is a question of style, not pre- or pro-scribed by any specific typographical rule. One nice middle ground is a hair space ( ), although it’s a pain to insert.
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7. 165944+YD1[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-08-30 22:11:48
>>d1sxey+dG
> spaces around em-dashes is a question of style, not pre- or pro-scribed by any specific typographical rule

Writing and publishing style guides like Hart's Rules (Oxford Style Guide) & Chicago manual of style have the 'em' dash use as a parenthetical closed or "no spaces" dash.

In British use – Hart's Rules – writers will choose the 'en' dash with spaces as a parenthetical dash, where US writers/publishers choose the closed 'em' dash for the same thing.

Imo, there is a conflation of 'en' dash and 'em' dash going around due to the ease of smart-dashes auto-correction turning (--) into 'em' dash with the 'en' dash and non-auto-correct 'em' dash needing a key-combo.

Common everyday typing online, I think people will simply use what is convenient and "good enough" -- a single hyphen dash as an 'en' dash or 2-hyphen dashes that may or may not auto correct into an 'em' dash. I prefer mixing spaces with a 2-hyphen dash 'em' dash, but I'm not a published writer so I enjoy doing wild things like that

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8. andrew+3E1[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-08-30 22:12:33
>>d1sxey+dG
I configured my Markdown renderer to replace ` -- ` with " — ". Hopefully those narrow spaces make it through HN's rendering — it's much easier when your tooling can do the job for you.

https://github.com/andrewaylett/aylett.co.uk/blob/d338d35a3d...

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