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1. chongl+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-08-13 23:10:59
The purpose of the system (the police in this casse) is what it does.

Nope. That's an ideology, not a statement of fact. It completely negates the possibility that systems can become corrupted (or simply fail) and no longer work towards their original purpose.

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2. uoaei+9H[view] [source] 2025-08-14 07:19:07
>>chongl+(OP)
Nope. That's an imposition of metaphysics onto what is solely clearly mere empiricism.
3. arrows+pc1[view] [source] 2025-08-14 12:27:24
>>chongl+(OP)
"systems can become corrupted (or simply fail) and no longer work towards their original purpose"

Er, that's exactly what "the purpose of a system is what it does" means.

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4. chongl+wN2[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-08-14 21:10:58
>>arrows+pc1
No, “the purpose of a system is what it does” implies that the original intent of the creators of a system was for it to become corrupted.
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5. arrows+3Q2[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-08-14 21:26:38
>>chongl+wN2
That's one way to read the literal meaning of the words, but it's not what the phrase means as originally intended.
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6. chongl+LR2[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-08-14 21:38:05
>>arrows+3Q2
Right, but then we apply the phrase to itself and this is what we get!
7. immibi+hk9[view] [source] 2025-08-17 11:24:33
>>chongl+(OP)
Nope. You added that extra word "original" in there.
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