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1. potato+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-08-13 15:49:29
The purpose of the system (the police in this casse) is what it does.

Always been that way, always will be. It's just a little harder to bury your head in the sand than it used to be.

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2. breppp+Ff[view] [source] 2025-08-13 17:03:41
>>potato+(OP)
the purpose of circular logic is circular logic
3. chongl+Mh1[view] [source] 2025-08-13 23:10:59
>>potato+(OP)
The purpose of the system (the police in this casse) is what it does.

Nope. That's an ideology, not a statement of fact. It completely negates the possibility that systems can become corrupted (or simply fail) and no longer work towards their original purpose.

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4. uoaei+VY1[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-08-14 07:19:07
>>chongl+Mh1
Nope. That's an imposition of metaphysics onto what is solely clearly mere empiricism.
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5. arrows+bu2[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-08-14 12:27:24
>>chongl+Mh1
"systems can become corrupted (or simply fail) and no longer work towards their original purpose"

Er, that's exactly what "the purpose of a system is what it does" means.

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6. chongl+i54[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-08-14 21:10:58
>>arrows+bu2
No, “the purpose of a system is what it does” implies that the original intent of the creators of a system was for it to become corrupted.
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7. arrows+P74[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-08-14 21:26:38
>>chongl+i54
That's one way to read the literal meaning of the words, but it's not what the phrase means as originally intended.
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8. chongl+x94[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-08-14 21:38:05
>>arrows+P74
Right, but then we apply the phrase to itself and this is what we get!
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9. immibi+3Ca[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-08-17 11:24:33
>>chongl+Mh1
Nope. You added that extra word "original" in there.
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