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1. iamacy+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-08-13 08:46:55
200 phones a day doesn’t sound like that many given the size of the population and the number of tourists.
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2. arccy+41[view] [source] 2025-08-13 08:57:34
>>iamacy+(OP)
but it could be like Tokyo....
3. uberco+f4[view] [source] 2025-08-13 09:29:10
>>iamacy+(OP)
Supposedly 39% of phone thefts in Europe happen in the UK https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jul/26/mobile-ph...
4. accoun+l7[view] [source] 2025-08-13 09:58:49
>>iamacy+(OP)
WTF yes it does.
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5. selfho+Zi[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-08-13 11:40:38
>>accoun+l7
10 million people live in London. Surely you'd expect at least some theft of belongings
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6. foldr+go[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-08-13 12:23:10
>>accoun+l7
Let's do some back-of-an-envelope stats on this.

Assuming there are 9 million people in London, that means that 1/45,000 Londoners experience a phone theft on a given day.

We can then (very crudely) estimate the probability that a Londoner has their phone stolen over a ten year period:

    1 - ((1-45000)/45000)^(365*10) = 0.08
So 200 phones a day translates to about a 8% chance of getting your phone stolen over a period of ten years.

I'm obviously not suggesting that the calculation above be taken too seriously. But it shows that 200 phones being stolen a day in a city of 9 million people is consistent with phone theft being a significant but not overwhelming problem.

(The adult population of London is around 7 million, and kids are obviously also victims of phone theft, so you won't get a radically different answer if you look at the population over a certain age.)

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7. iamacy+Es[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-08-13 12:53:20
>>foldr+go
That number also doesn’t take into account the significant number of tourists that visit every year, which from what I can see amounts to around ~20 million people.
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8. alexfo+lQ[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-08-13 14:57:28
>>foldr+go
> 1 - ((1-45000)/45000)^(36510) = 0.08

I think you mean:

    1 - ((45000-1)/45000)^(365*10) = 0.08
Whilst it doesn't matter if the exponent is even (such as 3650 above) using (1-45000)/45000 will give a wrong estimation for odd exponents.
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