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1. coldte+j6[view] [source] 2025-08-13 07:49:35
>>azalem+(OP)
Yeah, the government that let the strets go rampant with crime, that they don't even bother tracking anymore, is concerned about the people's "online safety"...
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2. jama21+R9[view] [source] 2025-08-13 08:28:17
>>coldte+j6
I always hear this but it seems to mostly be made up? Like yeah, there’s crime in London, but less than in most European or American cities… seems like a narrative that keeps being pushed without merit
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3. cs02rm+Za[view] [source] 2025-08-13 08:37:12
>>jama21+R9
It's a slightly mixed picture. Knife crime is one area that's been trending up for 10 years now. Shoplifting is at a 20 year high. Fraud is up. Firearms offences are roughly level.

But criminal damage is down. Of course, if you call the police for criminal damage, everyone knows they won't turn up and you'll just get a crime number, so unless you're claiming on insurance you're probably less and less likely to report it.

We shouldn't be aiming for London (with 200 phones stolen every day as it is) to reach the level of the worst European or American cities.

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4. iamacy+qc[view] [source] 2025-08-13 08:46:55
>>cs02rm+Za
200 phones a day doesn’t sound like that many given the size of the population and the number of tourists.
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5. accoun+Lj[view] [source] 2025-08-13 09:58:49
>>iamacy+qc
WTF yes it does.
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6. foldr+GA[view] [source] 2025-08-13 12:23:10
>>accoun+Lj
Let's do some back-of-an-envelope stats on this.

Assuming there are 9 million people in London, that means that 1/45,000 Londoners experience a phone theft on a given day.

We can then (very crudely) estimate the probability that a Londoner has their phone stolen over a ten year period:

    1 - ((1-45000)/45000)^(365*10) = 0.08
So 200 phones a day translates to about a 8% chance of getting your phone stolen over a period of ten years.

I'm obviously not suggesting that the calculation above be taken too seriously. But it shows that 200 phones being stolen a day in a city of 9 million people is consistent with phone theft being a significant but not overwhelming problem.

(The adult population of London is around 7 million, and kids are obviously also victims of phone theft, so you won't get a radically different answer if you look at the population over a certain age.)

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7. alexfo+L21[view] [source] 2025-08-13 14:57:28
>>foldr+GA
> 1 - ((1-45000)/45000)^(36510) = 0.08

I think you mean:

    1 - ((45000-1)/45000)^(365*10) = 0.08
Whilst it doesn't matter if the exponent is even (such as 3650 above) using (1-45000)/45000 will give a wrong estimation for odd exponents.
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