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1. ath3nd+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-08-10 18:52:20
They generally don't and won't stop until there are real repercussions for that, like losing your political career/being canceled in society over voting for it.
replies(3): >>mantas+D >>ncr100+Fh >>mirolj+OJ1
2. mantas+D[view] [source] 2025-08-10 18:57:53
>>ath3nd+(OP)
The problem is people behind the curtains will just pick another figure head. And we can’t even get the names who want to get rid of privacy. Since names of people pushing it were redacted for their privacy :D
replies(3): >>morkal+k2 >>croes+KR >>nicksl+So1
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3. morkal+k2[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-08-10 19:12:44
>>mantas+D
When the people orchestrating something like this can hide behind a veil of anonymity as well as bestow exemptions from monitoring upon the political class, it looks deeply wrong and conspiracy worthy. :D indeed.
replies(1): >>Geezus+u4
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4. Geezus+u4[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-08-10 19:33:53
>>morkal+k2
The exemptions for politicians is straight out of 1984.
replies(1): >>thfura+Tg
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5. thfura+Tg[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-08-10 21:17:27
>>Geezus+u4
They weren’t exempt in 1984.
replies(1): >>Electr+ri1
6. ncr100+Fh[view] [source] 2025-08-10 21:23:31
>>ath3nd+(OP)
Yup.

Having empathy for your neighbor, and working with those whom you disagree, are precursors. This gives power.

Then using power to enact consequences for businesses and governments (the people therein), fixes the problem.

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7. croes+KR[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-08-11 03:59:43
>>mantas+D
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorn_(organization)
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8. Electr+ri1[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-08-11 09:27:48
>>thfura+Tg
Upper class could completly turn off their telescreens, meaning they have partial exemptions at least. For middle class they were always on. Proles had no telescreen because they were considered to lack brains. Even the Party had levels, Inner and Outer, with different rules.

1984 would be incomplete without the hypocrisy of "rules for thee not for me".

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9. nicksl+So1[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-08-11 10:30:46
>>mantas+D
Context: https://digitalcourage.social/@echo_pbreyer/1114997695267549...
10. mirolj+OJ1[view] [source] 2025-08-11 13:46:41
>>ath3nd+(OP)
> They generally don't and won't stop until there are real repercussions for that, like losing your political career/being canceled in society over voting for it.

I wouldn't call login political career or being cancelled and voted out "real repercussions". They can pretty much retire and enjoy the rest of their lives with all the lobby money and EU rents.

Real repercussion would mean prison time and losing their property, but we all know that won't happen anytime soon.

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