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The US guarantees ER health services regardless of citizenship or ability to pay. They also get free public education (with all the burdens of being non-english speaking).

They pay taxes (in Texas) through gas, property and sales taxes which fund much of the state.

Yes, immigrants are a critical component of several industries like healthcare.

Legal permanent residency/work visas should be easier for skilled workers who want to work in high demand jobs. And all wealthy nations should be more wary of unlimited, unchecked economic migration by poorer populations.

(IOW it's complicated)

I think social media is at least as big a cultural weapon against us, and if I had to choose between deport/imprison a small number of business and political leaders who abuse that weapon or four million undocumented US residents, I would choose the former.

>>unethi+(OP)
I'm confused, I thought this was about the UK, and the US only got brought up in the sense of people wanting to copy them?

>>ben_w+O8
If going on tangents is a problem, start with the person I was responding to.

My comment on social media as the #1 catalyst of societal disassembly applies to the UK as well as the US.

>>unethi+Pr
What tangent? pjc50 was responding fairly directly to points in the comment he replied to. Who was in turn replying directly to his comment. Which was a direct reply to the next parent up. Which was expressing surprise to immigration being present at all in a root level response to a story about UK use of VPNs.

>>ben_w+Px
Veen made a comment about US ICE suggesting that political positions limiting immigration are a backdoor to human rights violations as a matter of fact, and suggesting that immigration has nothing to do with the push for more surveillance.

My comment was responding to that and to pjc50's reply.

>>unethi+NT
Veen did not: >>44712342

Veen was in reply to pjc50, who also did not: >>44712105 — "they've seen US ICE snatch squads and internment camps and decide that they want some of that here."

("here" can be read as either being "the UK" or "all places outside the USA", but the one place it can't be read as is "the US" because the US already has that).