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>>mmaria+(OP)
Destroy cultural integrity, national identity, create a low-trust society, become more authoritarian to manage low-trust society, import more immigrants at an exponential rate while house costs rise along with unemployment. The list keeps going. This is why far-right is surging on the polls. The country has completely lost all sense.

>>passwo+Pu
Incredible that you’ve managed to bring this conversation to immigration. In fact, it sounds like you’re saying the root cause of this crappy policy is somehow immigrants.

Far fetched and not cool.

>>nindal+1x
Everyone always wants to bring it back to immigration, because they've seen US ICE snatch squads and internment camps and decide that they want some of that here.

>>pjc50+Wp1
It's very difficult to build a growing economy when you have mass unskilled immigration combined with free healthcare and a generous welfare system.

>>Veen+Lt1
Immigrants can't claim welfare, beyond the tiny asylum seeker payment, and the healthcare system is dependent on immigration for staff.

>>pjc50+tB1
The US guarantees ER health services regardless of citizenship or ability to pay. They also get free public education (with all the burdens of being non-english speaking).

They pay taxes (in Texas) through gas, property and sales taxes which fund much of the state.

Yes, immigrants are a critical component of several industries like healthcare.

Legal permanent residency/work visas should be easier for skilled workers who want to work in high demand jobs. And all wealthy nations should be more wary of unlimited, unchecked economic migration by poorer populations.

(IOW it's complicated)

I think social media is at least as big a cultural weapon against us, and if I had to choose between deport/imprison a small number of business and political leaders who abuse that weapon or four million undocumented US residents, I would choose the former.

>>unethi+pP1
I'm confused, I thought this was about the UK, and the US only got brought up in the sense of people wanting to copy them?

>>ben_w+dY1
If going on tangents is a problem, start with the person I was responding to.

My comment on social media as the #1 catalyst of societal disassembly applies to the UK as well as the US.

>>unethi+eh2
What tangent? pjc50 was responding fairly directly to points in the comment he replied to. Who was in turn replying directly to his comment. Which was a direct reply to the next parent up. Which was expressing surprise to immigration being present at all in a root level response to a story about UK use of VPNs.