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1. akdev1+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-07-26 13:57:17
> Those apps are universally hated because of it.

Maybe they are hated by nerds on reddit and hackernews.

I gather most people are just using the apps and have no idea how they’re built.

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2. Aaargh+v9[view] [source] 2025-07-26 15:14:08
>>akdev1+(OP)
> I gather most people are just using the apps and have no idea how they’re built.

They may have no idea how they are built, but they do notice how janky and out of place they are. Take for example Microsoft Teams, have you ever met anyone who actually likes that app? It's insane that a simple chat app uses well over a gigabyte of RAM.

It's absurd that one of the biggest software companies in the world can't seem to produce a sleek, native app. It's purely a cost saving measure. They decided mediocrity is good enough for them and they get away with it because the people making the purchase decisions are not the people who have to use it daily.

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3. troupo+3f[view] [source] 2025-07-26 16:01:14
>>akdev1+(OP)
> I gather most people are just using the apps and have no idea how they’re built.

Because people who develop these only care about one thing: ease of development. They couldn't care less about what users say, and if they cared they wouldn't understand users, because users don't use terms like "latency", or "startup time", or "lag".

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4. jen20+On[view] [source] 2025-07-26 17:19:40
>>akdev1+(OP)
They may not why they’re slow, buggy and not platform integrated, but they certainly know. I just watched this as my employer switched to Slack. Thousands of non-IT professionals have many (valid) criticisms about the client hogging memory and generally being awful. Sadly most of the other options are worse, and also electron slop.
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5. jen20+Sn[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-26 17:20:22
>>Aaargh+v9
> one of the biggest software companies in the world can't seem to produce a sleek, native app

For their own operating system that they own the APIs and development tools for, no less!

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6. abusta+bD[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-26 20:01:00
>>Aaargh+v9
I hate teams as much as anyone but it seems a bit reductive to call it a simple chat app. It certainly doesn't need to take 1GB of RAM, but it's more complex than say, AIM or IRC are.
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7. brular+2Q[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-26 22:17:46
>>Aaargh+v9
Teams is one of the worst apps I ever had the misfortune to use. But that is no fault of electron. Slack was built with electron and it's night and day difference to Teams.
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8. brular+SQ[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-26 22:26:57
>>troupo+3f
Do you have any idea of the software development cost? You may care about your users all you want, maintaining web app and its desktop native counterparts (would you like distinct windows/linux/macos versions?) may be completely unaffordable.
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