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Don’t forget the ability to send push notifications. I think that’s one of the main reasons — it turns your whole relationship with a product on its head: you lose control over when you’re engaging, instead they can literally push their services and ads on you.

>>urband+(OP)
I have never liked notifications on iOS so I can't say for sure but I do know that on Android it's been possible to disable certain types of notifications or demote the urgency for at least 5 years now.

Whether or not most people are aware of this ability is another question, I guess.

>>baby_s+T
Can do same on iOS. I get very few notifications - lots of apps want me to authorize them but I only do so for the ones that actually need to do it (PagerDuty, instant messaging, pushover). Also if any app abuses the privilege it loses it immediately (looking at you Twitter, eBay and Amazon).

>>urband+(OP)
You can get push notifications to your phone from a website through the browser, even when that website isn't still open.

But presumably developers have more control over app notification look & feel vs browser notifications?

>>teagoa+T2
Browser push isn’t enabled by default which ime is a huge difference.

>>hsbaua+86
On iPhone at least, neither is app push

>>teagoa+T2
That's relatively recent. For years, iPhone PWAs didn't support push, and there are still other big reasons they're not really a thing. Like try making Firebase auth work in a PWA.

>>baby_s+T
I get almost zero notifications on iOS, you can just disable them. There are a couple exceptions but they are high-signal and business purpose.

>>urband+(OP)
On Android/Graphene, I recommend permanently turning on do not disturb and adding apps to the allowlist. Opt in to notifications, rather than opting out.

>>AaronA+df
> I get almost zero notifications on iOS, you can just disable them. There are a couple exceptions but they are high-signal and business purpose.

The one that gets me is Uber. For several minutes a month while traveling, I really want their notifications. But once a day when I don't, they use it to send advertisements for services I can't even use (no Uber or Uber Eats service where I live). I used to turn off notifications the first ad I got after getting home (usually within a day), but then realized it's easier just to delete the app each time. And if Lyft hasn't advertised at me by the next time I'm traveling, and they're still installed, well, they're the ones getting my dollars, since who has time to download an app each use?

>>addaon+pC
You can disable the notifications and enable the live view. It’ll notify about the current ride.

At least for now there are no ads there.

>>dontla+8U
Huh, I sort of assumed that they used the same permission ("pop crap up on my lock screen"). Didn't occur to me they were different. Thanks.

>>fugalf+Sl
Or just disable notifications for the various apps you don't want to hear from.

>>veloci+Xs1
That's opting out of notificationse which is subtly different. I'm advocating for something a little different. See if your mind feels less scattered if you don't have any notifications at all. Then allow back in the ones that you feel are essential. A lot of the notifications we get feel important, but aren't.

>>fugalf+Nl2
I've never considered something like this before. I like the way you've phrased this too. I'm going to give this a shot for a few weeks.