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1. wyre+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-07-17 01:21:03
The general population wants larger phones because they are addicted to their screens.
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2. jitter+E[view] [source] 2025-07-17 01:27:59
>>wyre+(OP)
For most people the phone is their only computer. Who bring laptop to a friend group hangout anymore ? Only the techies.
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3. jchw+L2[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-17 01:52:25
>>jitter+E
Well, do you think this is a good state of affairs? On one hand, phones are pretty accessible devices, on the other hand there are many aspects of phones that are objectively pretty terrible for consumers (talking about cost and difficulty of repair, walled garden ecosystems, and generally being geared towards consuming things and a lot less effective at producing them than laptops and desktops.)

(Tangential: of course I don't blame anyone for bringing their phone with them everywhere but if you're going to go to a friend group hangout, consider how annoying it is when you're trying to talk to someone and they're clearly checked out browsing some slop on Twitter or talking to someone else entirely. Take a damn break from the phone!)

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4. bigstr+m4[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-17 02:11:14
>>jitter+E
Who ever brought a laptop to a friend group hangout? I never have seen that happen myself.
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5. nunez+05[view] [source] 2025-07-17 02:18:08
>>wyre+(OP)
Yes, and people are using their phones for what they previously used TVs, laptops, music players and other dedicated devices for. It's a bit of a cycle.

There's also the accessibility factor. Many people become farsighted later in life. It's much easier to see things on a big phone, especially with increased zoom. (I see this all of the time when I fly.)

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6. al_bor+l6[view] [source] 2025-07-17 02:32:15
>>wyre+(OP)
Apple did a horrible job marketing the mini. I ran into a lot of people who saw my 12 mini and said they would prefer that size, but didn’t know it existed.

When I went to buy it, and the case, the employees at the Apple Store questioned me and tried to push me toward the normal iPhone. This is the first and only time I’ve ever felt Apple Store employees steering purchasing decisions. I had to go in there knowing what I wanted, and had to assert that it was what I wanted repeatedly.

Are people buying big phones because they are addicted to their screens, or are people addicted to their screens because of big phones?

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7. tarain+y8[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-17 03:02:10
>>bigstr+m4
Depends on you and your friends. My group does this regularly.
8. spacei+7a[view] [source] 2025-07-17 03:22:02
>>wyre+(OP)
I just want a decently large screen because I have old eyes. A 6.1” phone works fine for me.
9. knubie+Fc[view] [source] 2025-07-17 03:53:31
>>wyre+(OP)
The other problem is that more and more content now is designed for (or only tolerable on) larger phone screens. Go to any website these days on a smaller phone like an iPhone mini and more than 50% (being charitable here) of the screen will be taken up by garbage like ads, cookie banners, popups, etc.

It's a vicious cycle. Phone manufactures make the screen bigger, app and website developers realize they can cram more junk on the page, consumers demand larger screens as a result, return to step 1.

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10. Nursie+ti[view] [source] 2025-07-17 05:13:04
>>wyre+(OP)
I want larger phones because I am at that particular stage of middle age where I should probably start using reading glasses, but I'm also damned if I'm going to start carrying reading glasses everywhere with me.

Larger screen = easier life.

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11. agosta+Gi[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-17 05:15:25
>>knubie+Fc
Ya'll see adds? I use Brave Browser on all my devices and haven't seen traditional ads in years. Even Youtube ads are blocked on Brave by default
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12. pclowe+8k[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-17 05:30:57
>>agosta+Gi
Apple is putting ads as pop ups inside the wallet app now… every social media app is crammed with them too. Browser is the easy fix.
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13. ako+3l[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-17 05:42:09
>>Nursie+ti
I’m even older, walking around with reading glasses on my head all day. Had an iPhone 13 mini, miss the form factor, would prefer a mini as my next phone. But for most mobile use, on the couch, watching videos, etc, I use an iPad, not my phone. For me a large phone is mostly a tablet that’s too small.
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14. Nursie+jm[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-17 05:54:42
>>ako+3l
Yeah fair enough. At the moment the pro max is a sweet spot for me, but we'll see over time.
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15. microt+mq[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-17 06:37:59
>>al_bor+l6
When I went to buy it, and the case, the employees at the Apple Store questioned me and tried to push me toward the normal iPhone.

Probably because they knew that customers would come back to complain about the abysmal battery life of the Mini? I had a 12 Mini, I loved that phone, but man was it hard to get through the day on a single charge.

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16. ginko+2r[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-17 06:44:10
>>microt+mq
I generally only charge my 13 mini every other day or so.

The only time I recently struggled getting through the day was when on vacation and constantly using google maps & translate. But that is with a 3 year old phone.

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17. hdgvhi+hs[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-17 06:56:36
>>microt+mq
My 12 mini is nearly 5 years old and still lasts the day unless I’m watching a movie etc on a train for a few hours or something.
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18. knubie+8t[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-17 07:04:16
>>agosta+Gi
Most people just use whatever the default browser is on their phone.
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19. t0bia_+xu[view] [source] 2025-07-17 07:21:08
>>wyre+(OP)
Advertisers supports bigger screen for bigger space for their ads.
20. sayamq+Cu[view] [source] 2025-07-17 07:21:18
>>wyre+(OP)
I want larger monitors, laptops, tablets and phones because I can't f**ing see well. Book reading is a real strain on small screens.
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21. gargan+rv[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-17 07:32:23
>>ginko+2r
May I ask what your approximate screen on time is each day? You must be less addicted than the general population where its 4-6 hours a day
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22. ginko+xw[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-17 07:47:04
>>gargan+rv
Hm, looks like ios won't show screen time unless reporting is enabled which I haven't done.
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23. volemo+dy[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-17 08:01:47
>>bigstr+m4
I’m not sure if your comment is sarcastic, but in case it isn’t: my friend group had a get-together two days ago, three out of six had a laptop with them, and it even came in handy when I started talking about the problem I’m working on, somebody got interested and I was able to show the plots and calculations. Also we have PowerPoint Parties somewhat regularly, where most of us bring their computers to make last minute changes or simply have a known environment.
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24. urxvtc+aJ[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-17 09:59:25
>>gargan+rv
13 mini here, also not charging every day. My screen time is around 2 hours a day, which IMO is still to much. I try to keep battery between 20 and 80 percent.
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25. MrDOS+kJ[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-17 10:00:51
>>ginko+2r
Worth noting that (so I've heard) the most impactful hardware change between the 12 mini and the 13 mini was improvements to the battery life. I've never struggled with the battery life on my 13 mini, either, but the handful of people I know with a 12 mini have always bemoaned it.
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26. al_bor+tM[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-17 10:40:10
>>microt+mq
I don’t think any iPhone mini buyer would have been upset if the phone was a little thicker to accommodate a larger battery.
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27. ghaff+gP[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-17 11:07:38
>>jitter+E
When I was still working full-time, a co-worker told me their kid had told them they didn't need or want a computer. Probably changes at some point with long writing assignments, etc. but still.

I do increasingly think about whether I need to bring a laptop on various trips. It can be handy but I try to pack light and another few pounds is a lot for me. I've experimented with a newish tablet but it's a bit too in-between for my taste.

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28. philis+mR[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-17 11:25:13
>>knubie+8t
This is HN. OP is 100% right to be flabbergasted that people on this site are not using the best and brightest of the ad blockers available. I know I am.
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29. layer8+701[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-17 12:34:27
>>al_bor+tM
The problem is the weight it would add, more than the thickness.
30. swat53+yh1[view] [source] 2025-07-17 14:12:45
>>wyre+(OP)
> The general population wants larger phones because they are addicted to their screens.

I would rephrase that to: The general population wants a larger phones because phones are defacto PCs these days. They can watch movies, browser the news, listen to music, FaceTime, Maps, ..

Outside of business applications likes Word / Excel, phones basically handles 90% of people's requirements for "computers".

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31. Ezhik+gr1[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-17 15:14:51
>>ghaff+gP
I remember people would always be surprised about how home computer ownership was not that high but smartphones (well, Japanese "garakei") were were ubiquitous.

I guess Japan was ahead of the curve once again.

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32. bigstr+Sw1[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-17 15:47:25
>>knubie+Fc
Ironically, I have the opposite problem with website design. So many sites are clearly designed for mobile screen sizes, with a teensy-tiny strip of text on my large monitor. It's very unpleasant to read lines of text that short, so on a lot of sites I have to go into dev tools and set the text width to 1200px to make it an actual comfortable reading experience. I should not have to mess with CSS to make websites readable, but here we are.
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33. bigstr+Bx1[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-17 15:50:44
>>volemo+dy
Not sarcastic at all. I have never seen people (not even my nerdy friends, least of all normies) bring laptops to a friend hangout. People might bring laptops if they were getting together to work on stuff, but then that isn't just hanging out any more, there's a purpose to the gathering. I would be astonished if someone could show that non-techy people ever brought laptops when they would hang out. Techy people (like your friend group), maybe. But not your average person.
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34. thesha+G22[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-17 18:37:56
>>nunez+05
> There's also the accessibility factor. Many people become farsighted later in life. It's much easier to see things on a big phone, especially with increased zoom. (I see this all of the time when I fly.)

Or for those of us with higher end myopia whose lenses effectively “shrink” everything they see. I’m -6.75 in each eye and my glasses make my everything seem significantly smaller than it is.

Sometimes I look at my phone or monitor without my glasses and am momentarily shocked at how large they seem and then saddened when I put them back on.

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35. ghaff+yF2[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-17 22:30:02
>>Ezhik+gr1
Mini-computer sizes were pretty popular in Japan for a period even though they never really took off in the US--and pretty much died off entirely.
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