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1. pdabba+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-07-10 21:00:41
Fair enough. For what it's worth, I've always thought that the more reasonable claim is that AI tools make poor-average developers more productive, not necessarily expert developers.
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2. bluefi+Vh[view] [source] 2025-07-10 23:01:31
>>pdabba+(OP)
Personally I don't want poor-average developers to be more productive, I want them to be more expert
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3. Terr_+2x[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-11 01:36:02
>>bluefi+Vh
"Compared to last quarter, we've shipped 40% more spaghetti-code!"
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4. pdabba+8y[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-11 01:48:27
>>bluefi+Vh
Sure. But what would you suppose the ratio is between expert, average, and mediocre coders in the average organization? I think a small minority would be in the first category, and I don’t see a technology on the horizon that will change that except for LLMs, which seem like they could make mediocre coders both more productive and produce higher quality output.
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5. bluefi+fN[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-11 05:14:47
>>pdabba+8y
They definitely aren't producing higher quality output imo, but definitely producing low quality output faster

That's not a tradeoff that I like

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6. pdabba+rT1[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-11 14:54:38
>>bluefi+fN
That's the study I'm really interested in: does AI use improve the output of lower-skill developers (not experts). My intuitions point me in the opposite direction. I think AI would improve their work. But I'm not aware of any hard data that would help answer this question.
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