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1. creer+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-05-28 18:57:21
It's possible to do both: you can collect your paycheck WHILE looking for a better job (because this one is toxic). And now you know to interview more seriously the people at that potential new employer.

An essential part of "the job" is to get done what the company wants you to do. Even when that's stupid. Fair. But toxic jobs are still toxic to us, and staying is still our decision. Pending finding another better job - but sometimes even before having found the better job because sanity matters.

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2. ponect+fs2[view] [source] 2025-05-29 18:35:27
>>creer+(OP)
But you never know what is the new team untill you started your work.

No one will tell you during recruitment process about shit show they have or crazy manager. Or even if there was a nice team you've been interviewed to, after onboarding you could be reassigned to the toxic team to fix legacy code.

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3. creer+Sw3[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-05-30 04:55:46
>>ponect+fs2
Never? There are companies that don't tell which team you will work with, or even what you will do. From what I hear, this is such a minority that they stand out. But it's true that Google's example might make this more common as we go. Most companies still try to interview for a good match with the team you will work with. Meaning, interviewing with them.

(To be fair and for background, Google did not invent this - but perhaps pushed it much further than it was before. For example some variations of this at Wall Street firms in the 70s?)

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