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1. frollo+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-05-21 23:38:52
If you have rows of racks of machines, isn't that 3 dimensions? A machine can be on top of, behind, or next to another that it's directly connected to. And the components inside have their own non-uniform memory access.

Or if you're saying heat dissipation scales with surface area and is 2D, I don't know. Would think that water cooling makes it more about volume, but I'm not an expert on that.

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2. jvande+P2[view] [source] 2025-05-22 00:14:41
>>frollo+(OP)
Spatial position has nothing (ok only a little) to do with topology of connections.
3. manwe1+Id[view] [source] 2025-05-22 02:26:55
>>frollo+(OP)
That example would be two dimensions still in the limit computation, since you can keep building outwards (add buildings) but not scale upwards (add floors)
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4. frollo+gl[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-05-22 04:03:16
>>manwe1+Id
You can add floors though. Some datacenters are 8 stories with cross-floor network fabrics.
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5. immibi+GL[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-05-22 09:18:20
>>frollo+gl
When you get to, say, 100000 stories, you can't build more stories. At this point your computer costs more than the Earth's GDP for a century, so talking about theoretical scaling laws is irrelevant. Eventually you run out of the sun's power output so you build a Dyson sphere and eventually use all of that power, anyway.
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6. frollo+Bv1[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-05-22 15:40:53
>>immibi+GL
Oh right, so the height is practically a constant. Square root for sure then.
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7. LPisGo+Zo2[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-05-22 20:32:25
>>frollo+Bv1
All algorithms are O(1) in this case
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8. frollo+NG2[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-05-22 22:10:06
>>LPisGo+Zo2
You pick what things are constant and what's variable. If you're scaling a supercomputer to fit a problem, the height is going to max out quickly and can be treated as constant, while the other dimensions are variable.
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