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1. lm2846+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-04-08 16:24:10
That's a cool story you can tell your kids before bed but the reality is that when you include imports the US/EU emissions are stagnating or going up. It's easy not to pollute when you import most of your things from abroad.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/imported-or-exported-co-e...

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2. ZeroGr+o2[view] [source] 2025-04-08 16:36:38
>>lm2846+(OP)
That graph measures whether they are importing or not.

So it's not the emissions that are stagnant, it's the per capita imports of emissions which are roughly flat.

They have a separate graph which reflects "consumption" based emissions:

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/consumption-co2-per-capit...

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3. zahlma+Gp[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-04-08 18:38:13
>>ZeroGr+o2
By "imports of emissions" here, are we referring to the emissions involved in the creation of the imported goods? Or just what exactly?
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4. throwa+Lu[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-04-08 19:09:48
>>zahlma+Gp
It's an estimate, but AIUI yes.
5. throwa+7v[view] [source] 2025-04-08 19:12:00
>>lm2846+(OP)
Those data are moment in time. See one of the child posts for what you're talking about -- and in terms of trade corrected emissions the US and Europe turned the corner even earlier.
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