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Why do you count "per capita" when it should be counted "per crime"? Per capita means nothing for this argument.

>>carlos+(OP)
You're right, but progressives treat crime statistics as dog whistles for racism, which to be fair isn't uncommon. However, you can make a very similar "woke" argument. Much of crime is caused by centuries of systemic racism that Singapore and China never experienced, so you can't do an apple to apple comparison between incarcerations per capita.

Overall, Singapore and China are significantly more willing to sacrifice freedom in exchange for security. There is more surveillance and no trial by jury, for example.

>>Aunche+Ih
US Police have qualified immunity, protecting them from their actions against the people, Singapore's Police don't. Who's sacrificing their morals in exchange for security?

>>_DeadF+Yr
What gives you the idea that police in Singapore don't have qualified immunity? It sounds like you're treating it as a buzzword. The police anywhere are not liable for the actions they take as part of their job.

>>Aunche+0L
The fact that police in Singapore only have qualified immunity when serving warrants/etc.

Qualified immunity was made up the United States Supreme Court in the 1960s. It is a buzzword.