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1. jbaite+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-01-22 11:45:04
"They respect local laws and culture" - I think people from Xinyang probably have a very different perspective on that........
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2. anthk+id[view] [source] 2025-01-22 13:23:50
>>jbaite+(OP)
If you had AlQaeda in a hypothetical region near Florida with almost two-yearly terror attacks, you would shit bricks and create jails/prisons with more security than the Pentagon itself.
3. Octoth+Jd[view] [source] 2025-01-22 13:26:03
>>jbaite+(OP)
I think there's a more nuanced version of this: China respects local laws and culture _outside of what they view as China_ more than the US does. It's also worth noting that China's policy in Xinjiang is somewhat narrowly targeted at religion, and less other aspects like cuisine or clothing. That said, religion is nigh impossible to separate from the broader idea of culture in much of the world.
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4. lupire+sg[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-22 13:42:58
>>Octoth+Jd
Africa and South America and USA strongly disagree.
5. vbezhe+qi[view] [source] 2025-01-22 13:55:49
>>jbaite+(OP)
I encountered this almost first person. When American company goes like an elephant, bribing local officials left and right, using dirty practices to push out concurrents. At the same time, Chinese companies try very hard to abide to local regulations and trying to resolve all issues using local courts, etc. Like actually civilised people.

What happens inside China is nothing of my interest, it's their business. They existed for millennias, they probably know how to manage themselves. They are not trying to expand outside of may be Taiwan, they don't put their military bases in my country, they don't fund so-called "opposition" and that's good enough for me.

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6. Analem+9k[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-22 14:05:13
>>Octoth+Jd
Give me a break. China has overseas police stations as bases of operation for harassing ex-pats and dissidents. That's not "respecting local laws and culture".
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7. whimsi+Fx[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-22 15:26:15
>>Analem+9k
sorry but you’re not going to convince anyone approaching this with a neutral mind that China is more partial to overseas intervention than the US is
replies(1): >>Octoth+9E
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8. whimsi+Px[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-22 15:27:26
>>vbezhe+qi
Bribery is probably one of the few cases where the US is significantly better than bad actors in both China and the EU, both of which have major problems with overseas bribery
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9. Octoth+9E[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-22 16:04:25
>>whimsi+Fx
Agree, and would like to say that this is not because many of us see China as some benevolent actor on the world stage, but rather because we see how NOT benevolent the US has been historically (see South America, the middle east, etc)
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10. whimsi+FE[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-22 16:07:59
>>Octoth+9E
the US has done lots of positive things as well. i understand it is popular to be a critic nowadays, but in many ways the US has had a strong commitment to majoritarian democracy over the last century and is trending in a better direction.

but regardless of the net balance of actions, it is clearly more interventionist than China has been up to this point

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