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1. mppm+821[view] [source] 2025-01-22 06:56:32
>>tedsan+(OP)
Apart from my general queasiness about the whole AGI scaling business and the power concentration that comes with it, these are the exact four people/entities that I would not want to be at the tip of said power concentration.
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2. fsndz+Yi1[view] [source] 2025-01-22 09:35:41
>>mppm+821
What do you prefer ? Letting DeepSeek and China lead the AI war ? DeepSeek R1 is a big wake up call https://open.substack.com/pub/transitions/p/deepseek-is-comi...
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3. vbezhe+Au1[view] [source] 2025-01-22 11:35:06
>>fsndz+Yi1
China is much more peaceful nation compared to US. So, yes, I'd prefer China leading AI research any day. They are interested in mutual trade and prosperity, they respect local laws and culture, all unlike US.
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4. jbaite+Hv1[view] [source] 2025-01-22 11:45:04
>>vbezhe+Au1
"They respect local laws and culture" - I think people from Xinyang probably have a very different perspective on that........
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5. Octoth+qJ1[view] [source] 2025-01-22 13:26:03
>>jbaite+Hv1
I think there's a more nuanced version of this: China respects local laws and culture _outside of what they view as China_ more than the US does. It's also worth noting that China's policy in Xinjiang is somewhat narrowly targeted at religion, and less other aspects like cuisine or clothing. That said, religion is nigh impossible to separate from the broader idea of culture in much of the world.
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6. Analem+QP1[view] [source] 2025-01-22 14:05:13
>>Octoth+qJ1
Give me a break. China has overseas police stations as bases of operation for harassing ex-pats and dissidents. That's not "respecting local laws and culture".
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7. whimsi+m32[view] [source] 2025-01-22 15:26:15
>>Analem+QP1
sorry but you’re not going to convince anyone approaching this with a neutral mind that China is more partial to overseas intervention than the US is
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8. Octoth+Q92[view] [source] 2025-01-22 16:04:25
>>whimsi+m32
Agree, and would like to say that this is not because many of us see China as some benevolent actor on the world stage, but rather because we see how NOT benevolent the US has been historically (see South America, the middle east, etc)
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9. whimsi+ma2[view] [source] 2025-01-22 16:07:59
>>Octoth+Q92
the US has done lots of positive things as well. i understand it is popular to be a critic nowadays, but in many ways the US has had a strong commitment to majoritarian democracy over the last century and is trending in a better direction.

but regardless of the net balance of actions, it is clearly more interventionist than China has been up to this point

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