Setting the world on fire and disrupting societies gleefully, while basically building bunkers (figuratively more than literally) and consolidating surveillance and propaganda to ride out the cataclysm, that's what I'm seeing.
And the stories to sell people on continuing to put up with that are not even good IMO. Just because the people who use the story to consolidate wealth and control are excited about that, we're somehow expected to be excited about the promise of a pair of socks made from barbed wire they gave us for Christmas. It's the narcissistic experience: "this is shit. this benefits you, not me. this hurts me."
One thing is sure, actual intelligence, regardless of how you may define it, something that is able to reason and speak freely, is NOT what people who fire engineers for correcting them want. It's not about a sort of oracle for humanity to enjoy and benefit from, that just speaks "truth".
I don’t believe the control problem is solved, but I’m not sure it would matter if it is.
I don't even understand what the proposed mechanism for "rouge AI enslaves humanity" is. It's scifi (and not hard scifi) as far as I can see.
To put it simply, it could outcompete humanity on every metric that matters, especially given recent advancements in robotics.
Again, I wonder why no group of smart people with brilliant ideas has unilaterally imposed those ideas on the rest of humanity through sheer force of genius.
Having said that, we do not to understand the world to exploit it for ourselves. And what better way to understand and exploit the universe than science? Its an endearment.
I don't know if this will happen with any certainty, but the general idea of commoditising intelligence very much has the ability to tip the world order: every problem that can be tackled by throwing brainpower at it will be, and those advances will compound.
Also, the question you're posing did happen: it was called the Manhattan Project.
We already did. Look at the state of animals today vs <1 mya. Bovines grown in unprecedented mass numbers to live short lives before slaughter. Wolves bred into an all new animal, friendly and helpful to the dominate species. Previously apex predators with claws, teeth, speed and strength, rendered extinct.
Who cares about the planet, anyway.
https://apnews.com/article/wind-energy-offshore-turbines-tru...
https://www.utilitydive.com/news/trump-offshore-wind-leasing...
“AGI” has proven to be today’s hot marketing stunt for when you need to raise another round of cash and your only viable product is optimism.
Flying cars were just around the corner in the 60s, too.
The difference is that Musk can do twice as much for 1/10 what Nasa thinks the program will cost, which is never what the program will actually cost, and Musk will do it in half that time to boot.
The guy is an unhinged manchild, but if what you care about is having your money well spend and getting to Mars as cheaply as possible, he's exactly who you're looking for.
I think reinforcement learning with little to no human feedback, O-1 / R-1 style, might be that revolution.
All of these entities would have been enormously more powerful with access to an AGI's immortality, sleeplessness, and ability to clone itself.
If Alexander could have left perfectly aligned copies of himself in every city he passed, he could have gotten much more control and authority, and still avoided a fight by agreeing to maintain the local power structure with himself as the new head of state.
The problem you're proposing could be solved via a high quality cellular network.
There's also the monetary policy, which is when the federal reserve does this on purpose. The general principle is the same, but instead it spends its money buying bonds and gets its money selling those bonds, and creates a bunch of rules about where banks keep their money so it always has some money on hand.
Yeah, that's why I mentioned the fed.
> It would mean that countries with low taxes have very high inflation and this is not the case.
It's about the total balance of government spending and taxes. The point being made is that tax breaks have the same effect as government spending. Recall that I was replying to
> Tax breaks, i.e. my money not being in your pocket means that they are stolen?
The government writing someone a million dollar check and the government giving someone a million dollar tax break (assuming they pay at least a million in taxes), contribute to inflation by increasing the money supply by a million dollars than it would be otherwise. Yes, this federal reserve is by far a larger driver of inflation, but the government giving this tax break still degrades the value of your money, same as if they wrote a check.
Of course, it is easy to view a tax break as a non-action, but that's exactly why the government gives so many tax breaks. Once you're taxing everyone, you can hand out tax breaks that's the same as handing out money only you can pretend that it's doing nothing.
Think of it as 3 Scenarios:
1) The island government writes a check to everyone except you, increasing their wealth by 50%.
2) The island government taxes just you for 50% of your wealth.
3) The island government taxes everyone 75% of their wealth, grants everyone but you a total tax-break, and you 25 percentage point tax break.
Basically the same result, only in one they say "It was fair, and we handed out a few tax-breaks, what's wrong with letting people keep their money?"
Maybe at some point they are going to AI themselves out of climate change. Well.. except for the part where they don’t believe in man-escalated climate change.
I do find impressive that SpaceX engineers figured out reusable rockets and now we can send things more cheaply out to orbit. But in all seriousness, should we care about getting to Mars cheaply? Or do people care because Musk came along to convince them (and the US government) to invest in this venture of his?
2) if government gives everyone tax break but not me, it means only that the government taxes only me
3) if everyone has 50% more money, there is very high probability that my business will go up A LOT
Seriously, dude, it’s not worthy anymore to try and explain to you very basic stuff. Inflation is not a balance between taxation and spending. All Middle Eastern countries are having huge spending and almost zero taxes. I asked you very simple question and you couldn’t answer.
What bothers me most is why people write about things they have no clue about and clearly haven’t even put a decent thought into it.
Basically what you believe in is that the thieves are controlling the inflation because they get some of the citizens wealth.
I mean, I can see how numbers wise this decision makes sense.
There's actually lots of taxes that aren't income or sales tax
> if everyone has 50% more money, there is very high probability that my business will go up A LOT
No, you'll be getting twice the money, but the money is worth half as much.
> Inflation is not a balance between taxation and spending.
It is for the US federal government.
> All Middle Eastern countries are having huge spending and almost zero taxes.
Those countries peg their currency to the dollar. Their money doesn't come from taxes, but instead from state oil companies. These countries aren't as free to hand out money like the US. If enough people tried to exchange their Saudi Riyals for dollars quick enough, and the Saudi government couldn't gather US dollars quick enough, their currency would very quickly collapse.
1)Leibniz wasn't superhuman 2) Leibniz couldn't work 24/7 3) he could not self increase the speed of his own hardware (body) 4) he could not spawn 1 trillion copies of him to work 24/7
Like how much time did you think before writing this
A trillion hyperintelligent demons might be cogitating right now on the head of a pin. You can't prove they aren't thinking up all sorts of genius evil schemes. My point is that "intelligence" has never been a sufficient - or even necessary - component of imposing ones will on humans.
I feel like HN/EA/"Grey Tribe" people fail to see this because they so worship intellect. I'm much more likely to fall victim to a big dumb man than smart computers.
The Manhattan Project would be a cute example if the Los Alamos scientists had gone rogue and declared themselves emperors of mankind, but no, in fact the people in charge remained the people in charge - mostly not supergeniuses.