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It seems a lot of reddit communities are starting to block xitter as it's painful to use now without an account. Should HN do the same?

>>Cub3+(OP)
Nah. I just wanted to see a source I trusted to be legitimate before sharing a sensational story.

>>loeg+g
if its on front page of HN already w/ hundreds of votes, i think its fair to assume its legitimate regardless of the source.

>>Cub3+(OP)
No. Let us decide how we want to handle it. Most of us could handle it ourselves through scripts and extensions if it really bothered us anyway.

>>Cub3+(OP)
Of course not, the tweet here is _the_ original source for that news

>>Cub3+(OP)
The main reason all the subs made this change today is because of the elon nazi salute, not the fact that twitter is hostile to unauthenticated user agents.

>>easter+Z5
> not the fact that twitter is hostile to unauthenticated user agents.

Yep, Twitter has had aggressive authentication gating for almost 2yrs now and HN frequently has Twitter links

>>frinxo+v
True looking nonsense floats to the top of HN semi-regularly; it's not a good enough metric.

>>dmix+r6
Am I remembering correctly that when Elon first took over, he took that gate down because of his whole free speech thing. I'm guessing they re-instated it as soon as it hit the bottom line. Makes me wonder if government should still rely on it for comms.

>>bigmat+L7
One of the first things Twitter did post Elon was remove sign in gating then I guess the bankers pressed Elon and it went back up. Can't always do everything you want in business, I guess. Bills come first.

>>bigmat+L7
Wasn't it because of extensive scraping?

>>dmix+r6
HN often has twitter links when this is the primary source; in that case in comments there are usually links to mirrors or threadreader.

Here twitter is not the main source, there are better ones (both better quality and more user friendly).

I would like a rule to avoid submissions that are login walled unless this is the primary source and an open mirror is available.

>>bigmat+L7
I think it was removed by geohot when he was in the house, but then reinstated after a while. I remember him railing against it.

>>easter+Z5
> The main reason all the subs made this change today is because of the elon nazi salute

You need to be a radical far leftist to even believe that. But then this is Reddit.

>>loeg+g
What far left sources do you consider “trusted”?

>>Cub3+(OP)
>it's painful to use now without an account.

Now??? Its been just as painful to use without an account for around 10 years now.

>>kernal+On
If doing a nazi salute isn't sad enough, failing to reclaim it is even sadder

>>kernal+On
It's an interesting thing to see happen. In seconds, people snapped it and flooded the internet with it. But nothing will happen, because doing a "nazi salute" on accident means nothing.

>>easter+Z5
Pretty much every politician has done the same "nazi" salute. If that is actually the reason that is ridiculous.

>>webere+pp
No, it's worse now.

Back in 2017, I could still read public profiles, their tweets, and look at the replies, all without logging in.

Now I can't even look at an account page without logging in.

>>jeffhu+HP
Yeah, I thought it was interesting that nobody really questioned the relevance of intent over appearance.

>>ImJama+zh1
Obama, Warren, Hillary Clinton and Harris have all made the same salute. If Musk is a Nazi because of that, then where does leave all these politicians many of us votes for...

>>kernal+Vn
I don't think this is responsive to my comment. I'm happy to trust reporting from NYT, Reuters, AP, WSJ, Wapo, Bloomberg, major regional newspapers... it's not a super high or politicized bar. Just something other than "a single twitter account."

>>thih9+mj
I've been on HN since the very beginning and the solution has always been simple: if the post is auth/pay-walled then post archive links or copy paste the text in comments.

I get why there's noise about banning X suddenly but lets not pretend it's for sudden technical/UX concerns. No one is calling for NYT, WSJ, or WaPo submissions to be avoided. Twitter had auth gating for many years before Elon.

>>dmix+783
That’s my point; like I said:

> I would like a rule to avoid submissions that are login walled unless this is the primary source and an open mirror is available.

Twitter had auth gating but also mirrors; now Nitter is discontinued.

>>thih9+od3
Fair enough. For the record I despise how bad twitters gating is :/