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1. jandre+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-01-13 19:37:22
But your approach results in someone who can't even conceive of the truth being identifiable. It doesn't seem like a great way to run a society.
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2. baggy_+Pp[view] [source] 2025-01-13 21:13:13
>>jandre+(OP)
I am unable to connect your sentence to what I said.
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3. jandre+eB[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-13 22:10:53
>>baggy_+Pp
> I have no faith that there is some authoritative entity that could objectively determine what is a lie and what is the truth.

I read this as "it is impossible to determine truth". If there exists a well resourced entity who's entire purpose in life is to determine objective truth and they are unable to do so what chance do I have?

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4. potato+1e1[view] [source] 2025-01-14 01:59:01
>>jandre+(OP)
Having the power to determine truth does not seem like a great way to run a society even if it gets you some easy wins on other fronts.

It might work at first and be effective for some time in the same way that a dictator can "get things done" but there is no free lunch.

Eventually you will get evil dictators, power hungry arbitrators of truth. It will bite you. It is only a question of when. It might be years or generations. The only winning move is not to play. Don't concentrate the power in the first place.

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5. baggy_+UF2[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-14 15:09:08
>>jandre+eB
You just have to use your best judgement like everybody else.
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6. jandre+Gh7[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-15 19:33:21
>>baggy_+UF2
That's the problem though. Your judgement gets warped by the constant stream of lies. That's the fundamental concept behind propaganda. If you repeat a lie enough times it will be believed. Everybody thinks they're too smart to be taken in by propaganda, that's one of the reasons it works so well.
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7. baggy_+SAb[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-16 23:43:45
>>jandre+Gh7
That's true, and it works both ways.
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