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1. androi+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-12-13 02:18:12
without the so called "corporate class" or capitalists and their relentless effort to pursue wealth, everyone would be worse off today. Billons died from communist wet stream in the 20 century but the lessons are still not learned. Yes, government regulation is important but capitalism is the reason why millions of people are not starving today unlike any other periods in time.
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2. ben_w+mn[view] [source] 2024-12-13 08:26:08
>>androi+(OP)
> Billons died from communist wet stream in the 20 century but the lessons are still not learned

Billions didn't.

USSR census population in 1989 was only 286 million total, while the Holodomor and the Cambodian genocide combined were between 4.4-8 million.

And the Holodomor (and broader famine in the rest of the USSR) looks suspiciously similar to the failure mode of the British government with the Irish potato famine and the Indian famines under British rule, each of which played a part in those people wanting independence, as does the Chinese great leap forward's 15-55 million.

Even with those, and the Chinese famine happened so soon into a transition away from agrarian society that to me it seems more like a tragedy than a consequence, it's still not billions.

No, what saved billions from starvation is fertiliser, and policies of subsidising over-production so that the bad harvest years food is merely expensive rather than insufficient.

If it was "capitalism", then the Lassiez faire British empire wouldn't have had the Irish potato famine nor would the East India Company have been in charge for so many famines in India.

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3. daveit+a85[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-12-15 18:47:54
>>ben_w+mn
20 million white Christians were exterminated and this was not an accident. Get your figures right.
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4. ben_w+N76[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-12-16 08:06:55
>>daveit+a85
I've not seen any sources claiming such a large number; hundreds of thousands targeted specifically due to their religion and over all races combined, but not millions.

20 million targeted by both race and religion would have been a bigger thing than the actual literal holocaust.

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