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1. loloqu+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-12-02 21:04:02
I don’t follow - how do you mask a bad taste (bad coffee) with a bad taste (burned coffee)? I.e. if it’s going to taste bad then use a lighter roast, cheaper and faster anyway.
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2. kdmtct+c2[view] [source] 2024-12-02 21:16:44
>>loloqu+(OP)
One could pretend that beans are intentionally burned, "The Vietnamese Way", regardless of the source material quality. Lighter roast would differ from batch to batch with varying not-so-good taste, but charcoal is always a charcoal.
3. 0x457+Q2[view] [source] 2024-12-02 21:20:56
>>loloqu+(OP)
Burnt coffee taste like burnt coffee. Vietnamese drink coffee with 1/4 can of condensed milk in it.

Bad coffee beans if not roasted to charcoal state taste even worse. Argument that that most of available coffee in VN is made from pretty bad beans, so roasters have no other way to roast it to that level.

That's it.

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4. loloqu+Ao[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-12-03 00:28:02
>>0x457+Q2
They could just stop selling it if it’s that bad :)
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5. bschwi+Sr[view] [source] 2024-12-03 01:08:55
>>loloqu+(OP)
Dark roast isn't necessarily bad, quite a lot of people prefer the taste, especially if they're adding milk or other things to their drink.

But a dark roast is easier to produce, and easier to produce consistently. If you take high quality beans, and low quality beans, and roast them both to a dark level (let's say "French" or "Italian" roast), they're going to taste approximately the same. Therefore if you're producing coffee at a larger scale and want to save money, you can use cheaper beans and roast them dark to mask the imperfections that come with the cheaper beans.

There are some truly incredible coffees out there and a well-executed light or light-medium roast will bring out those flavors beautifully, but the quality starts at the coffee farm. You can't light roast a low quality coffee bean and expect those same excellent flavors.

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6. forgot+Uy[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-12-03 02:24:47
>>loloqu+Ao
Lower income countries make do with what they have. They can't just throw everything out and import higher quality stuff like some countries can.
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7. EasyMa+2C[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-12-03 02:58:42
>>loloqu+Ao
I agree. If they weren't making money, they'd go bust, so clearly someone likes the "burnt coffee". It's odd how some posters (not you!) Will act like an obvious opinion is to be taken as fact, and not acknowledge that some people like a certain taste. I mean, some people like super salty anchovies, but I abhor them, but I don't tell the anchovie lovers that they are incorrect.
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8. throw_+L52[view] [source] 2024-12-03 17:02:37
>>loloqu+(OP)
The range is somehow (unburnt good coffee) > (burnt good coffee == burnt bad coffee) > (unburnt bad coffee).

If you are in the last box, you cannot get to the first one, but you can still move one step up by burning it. Plus you can add a lot of milk and cream and then it is almost the same anyway.

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9. 0x457+0I2[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-12-03 20:14:43
>>EasyMa+2C
I think it's because people that complain about "burnt coffee" (me) are people that take their coffee black and probably brew it at come.

Meanwhile, people that don't mind "burnt coffee" are the people that preferred coffee-based drinks from coffee shops. If I get a salted caramel mocha Frappuccino with two pumps of hazelnut - burnt beans are probably the only kind of beans I will be able to taste in that drink.

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