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1. psanfo+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-10-10 14:46:57
I'm a little sad that this has seemingly taken precedence over all other hardware support. M3 support, dp-alt mode, making the microphone work are all things that I was hoping were going to land in the past year.
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2. floydn+S51[view] [source] 2024-10-10 21:08:32
>>psanfo+(OP)
I'm aware of no better way to see your desired features land in open source than to build them yourself. That is the power of open source, nobody can stop you!
3. pbasis+ma1[view] [source] 2024-10-10 21:43:10
>>psanfo+(OP)
I understand the sentiment. But the people who could work on the Asahi Linux graphics stack are generally not the same as the people who could e.g. bring up Asahi Linux on M3 chips.

I would not consider the lack of activity in some Asahi Linux areas to be a conflict of priorities. It is in my opinion mostly a result of these lacking areas naturally attracting less developers capable of moving them forward.

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4. tallda+Xf1[view] [source] 2024-10-10 22:30:53
>>psanfo+(OP)
It's an Apple chip with no documentation and zero existent driver code to reference. You have to set realistic expectations here, and acknowledge that not every contributor is going to have the domain-specific knowledge required to make everything work. It's nothing short of a divine miracle that it has working Vulkan drivers you can download within a half-decade of it's release.

If you want more, you'll have to take it up with Tim Cook or God (both have a nasty habit of ignoring us little guys). Also an option: not using a laptop that treats Linux as a threat to it's business model.

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5. dadoum+Mg1[view] [source] 2024-10-10 22:36:57
>>psanfo+(OP)
Alyssa Rosenzweig already talked a bit about that on her Mastodon. She said that after having worked to implement a GPU drivers, it was annoying that she never had the time to quite finish them. On each device release, she had to support the new device instead of polishing what she got.
6. vincen+Dz1[view] [source] 2024-10-11 02:20:11
>>psanfo+(OP)
AFAIK the M3 is going to take a lot longer as the asahi team leverages apple silicon in their CI which means mac mini servers and the M3 generation never got their mac mini. Of all the generations to finally take the plunge into apple silicon, I had to choose the weird one... (typing this on an M3 mbair and not on linux sigh)

Ah yeah, here's the post: https://social.treehouse.systems/@marcan/112277289414246878

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7. porphy+Lz1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-10-11 02:23:31
>>pbasis+ma1
The M3 GPU is a lot different and has a bunch of new features like ray tracing, so the super talented team working on the Asahi Linux graphics stack might have a lot of work ahead of them to support the M3's GPU fully as well.

God I wish I was smart enough to help out with Asahi Linux...

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8. WD-42+QC1[view] [source] 2024-10-11 03:12:57
>>psanfo+(OP)
I mean this is the nature of the beast with arm and apple. It’s a closed system. There are some devs that are going to be willing to go through the effort just for the challenge of it, but most are just going to use x86/linux because you don’t have to actively fight against the vendor.
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9. WD-42+3D1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-10-11 03:15:57
>>vincen+Dz1
Good grief what an uphill battle. It’s amazing there are any devs willing to put up with Apple hardware at all.
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10. WD-42+8D1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-10-11 03:16:52
>>tallda+Xf1
I’m not sure why you are being downvoted. This is the truth people who buy Apple hardware need to hear.
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11. nxobje+RD1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-10-11 03:24:46
>>porphy+Lz1
Chipping into their Patreon helped me feel at peace with not being smart enough!
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12. opan+n82[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-10-11 08:47:34
>>vincen+Dz1
Have you considered selling your machine and getting an M2 of some sort?
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