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1. qwerto+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-09-27 08:56:06
I find it funny how in Germany the state lottery advertises itself on TV but needs to add the info that "Gambling can be addictive."

For example, this ad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0-pKS_zx5E is made by "LOTTO 6aus49", which is "LOTTO.de", which is "Toto-Lotto Niedersachsen GmbH", which is the lottery company of the state Lower Saxony.

To me this is as if the state would place TV ads for wine which a state-owned winery produces, like "Landesbetrieb Hessische Staatsweingüter" also known as "Hessische Staatsweingüter GmbH Kloster Eberbach".

And the lottery numbers are then presented in the prime time news in the publicly funded television.

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2. nicbou+S[view] [source] 2024-09-27 09:04:53
>>qwerto+(OP)
Lotto Quebec runs both lottery ads and gambling-can-ruin-your-life ads. The German ads have nothing on those.
3. loboch+X[view] [source] 2024-09-27 09:05:13
>>qwerto+(OP)
You do know that lotto is state run, and all profit that isn’t redistributed to players is given to charity (mostly deutsche sporthilfe, who fund a lot of sports who would otherwise have trouble running).

Lotto and sports betting in its modern incarnation are very different.

Lotto was created so that people’s desire for gambling is diverted towards charity.

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4. ekianj+01[view] [source] 2024-09-27 09:05:28
>>qwerto+(OP)
Governments make tons of money on gambling/lotteries. So they keep it running. This shows how much they don't care about making positive impact to people's lives.
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5. 4hg4uf+P1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-09-27 09:14:21
>>loboch+X
How does operating expenses like salaries and bonuses look like? 10k bonus for every life ruined? I'm always worried about cronyism and corruption with this kind of monopolies.

When I was a cashier the state owned lottery monopoly had a training session for us on how to operate the lottery machines, and it was really dystopian how most of the time was spent on encouraging us to make upsells with sales pitches and being happy about gambling.

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6. qwerto+72[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-09-27 09:17:18
>>loboch+X
Sorry, but that is not true.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotto#Verwendung_der_Einnahmen

50% for is the gamblers

23% is diverted towards the charity you mention.

16.7% is taxes

7.5% is commission

2.8% is for running the business

In other words, the "Aktion Mensch" gives around 1/4 to those in need.

* Correction, "Aktion Mensch" give close to 1/3 to those in need and less to gamblers (also 30%). But they keep more to themselves.

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7. throwa+X3[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-09-27 09:34:09
>>qwerto+72
What is "provision"?
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8. qwerto+b4[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-09-27 09:37:00
>>throwa+X3
My apologies, I meant commission. For the places which offer lottery tickets, usually kiosks.
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9. loboch+jI[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-09-27 14:01:05
>>qwerto+72
Yes. 2.8% is kept by the business. vs 40-60% by a bookie.
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10. loboch+tI[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-09-27 14:01:45
>>4hg4uf+P1
Sure. Is a private free for all better though?
11. blueca+4Z1[view] [source] 2024-09-27 21:02:12
>>qwerto+(OP)
Advertising state lottery on TV is just a way for politicians to funnel money to their buddies in the marketing agency and TV. I guess they get some positive coverage for that or w/e. It's one of the most obvious signs of corruption imo. It happens in Poland as well and it's infuriating when you are a tax payer in that country.
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12. Dylan1+3L2[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-09-28 07:01:41
>>qwerto+72
I don't think this really disproves their post? They said the profit that doesn't go to players goes to charity. Probably a smidge of the 10.3% that goes to the business and the lotto becomes profit, but out of the other 89.7% everything after taxes goes to either the players or the charity. Close enough; if they're off it's only by a couple percent.
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13. imtrin+Y0a[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-10-01 09:40:41
>>qwerto+72
I don't get why you are using the lottery ticket revenue as a baseline when in reality the lottery company mostly acts as a payment processor or intermediary. It'd be like arguing Visa only gives 2% to shareholders and shareholders should be owed all money transacted over the Visa network.
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