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[return to "Legalizing sports gambling was a mistake"]
1. mlsu+wN1[view] [source] 2024-09-27 04:51:53
>>jimbob+(OP)
Sports gambling, like all gambling, ruins lives. It's certainly worth having the discussion about whether people should be able to run a train through their life and the lives of their families via app.

But a much easier argument against sports betting is that it ruins the sports. Players throw. They get good at subtly cheating. The gambling apparatus latches itself to the sport, to the teams and players, the umpires and judges, the sporting organizations. With this much money on the line, it's not a matter of if but when games are thrown, cheated -- the bigger the game, the bigger the incentive. It's even easier now because of the amount of side/parlay betting that is available. It exhausts the spirit of competition.

Sports gambling is diametrically opposed to sport itself.

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2. qwerto+qb2[view] [source] 2024-09-27 08:56:06
>>mlsu+wN1
I find it funny how in Germany the state lottery advertises itself on TV but needs to add the info that "Gambling can be addictive."

For example, this ad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0-pKS_zx5E is made by "LOTTO 6aus49", which is "LOTTO.de", which is "Toto-Lotto Niedersachsen GmbH", which is the lottery company of the state Lower Saxony.

To me this is as if the state would place TV ads for wine which a state-owned winery produces, like "Landesbetrieb Hessische Staatsweingüter" also known as "Hessische Staatsweingüter GmbH Kloster Eberbach".

And the lottery numbers are then presented in the prime time news in the publicly funded television.

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3. loboch+nc2[view] [source] 2024-09-27 09:05:13
>>qwerto+qb2
You do know that lotto is state run, and all profit that isn’t redistributed to players is given to charity (mostly deutsche sporthilfe, who fund a lot of sports who would otherwise have trouble running).

Lotto and sports betting in its modern incarnation are very different.

Lotto was created so that people’s desire for gambling is diverted towards charity.

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4. qwerto+xd2[view] [source] 2024-09-27 09:17:18
>>loboch+nc2
Sorry, but that is not true.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotto#Verwendung_der_Einnahmen

50% for is the gamblers

23% is diverted towards the charity you mention.

16.7% is taxes

7.5% is commission

2.8% is for running the business

In other words, the "Aktion Mensch" gives around 1/4 to those in need.

* Correction, "Aktion Mensch" give close to 1/3 to those in need and less to gamblers (also 30%). But they keep more to themselves.

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5. imtrin+occ[view] [source] 2024-10-01 09:40:41
>>qwerto+xd2
I don't get why you are using the lottery ticket revenue as a baseline when in reality the lottery company mostly acts as a payment processor or intermediary. It'd be like arguing Visa only gives 2% to shareholders and shareholders should be owed all money transacted over the Visa network.
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