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1. mu53+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-09-27 06:57:22
fantasy land vs the real world.

I am sure most business owners don't want to be casinos, but would rather be clubs. When the bills are due, they have to find a way to pay up.

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2. Blahah+B2[view] [source] 2024-09-27 07:22:44
>>mu53+(OP)
That absolutely cannot be true. If a business does not want to be a casino, it doesn't have to be.

I run a pub. We'd never have any gambling (machines or otherwise) in it, and we charge less than most pubs for locally sourced beer/cider.

If you're running your business to extract value from people rather than to create community with them, you're a bad person.

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3. tgv+u4[view] [source] 2024-09-27 07:44:06
>>mu53+(OP)
I think you confuse the real world for Ayn-Randistan. Local sports clubs don't need to make someone $5M/yr. They just need to provide sporting facilities, such as fields and tracks, to local sporters. They can be run by volunteers.

Likewise, running a business for a profit doesn't mean exploiting people to their ruin. If you can't make money ethically, you should do something else.

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4. komali+56[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-09-27 07:58:40
>>Blahah+B2
> If you're running your business to extract value from people rather than to create community with them, you're a bad person.

I run a restaurant with the same idea - we pay our staff way more than anyone else is outside the Michelin places for example.

Still, you might be a bad person if you're running an exploitative business, but very likely the system will reward that kind of person more than you or I. In fact I find it difficult to compete with those sorts of people because they get away with it and make more money so can do more marketing, expand more aggressively etc. The classic annoyance I face is other restaurants in the area giving away free french fries for a 5 star review on Google maps.

Now there are customers who spot the fraudulent review restaurants and come to ours instead, and the discerning customer is our market segment anyway (we do many other things that normies would miss but discerning customers notice and reward with their loyalty) but a restaurant lives and dies on the whims of hordes of normie customers that are delighted to get free fries and don't mind creating a Google account for the first time in their lives to get'm.

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5. FactKn+F02[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-09-27 19:53:26
>>komali+56
>we do many other things that normies would miss but discerning customers notice and reward with their loyalty

this sounds interesting, can you share any other examples?

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6. komali+CE2[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-09-28 02:16:38
>>FactKn+F02
We import our flour because taiwanese flour can't achieve authentic biscuit taste, at least in our hundreds of tests. But most wouldn't really notice that especially without a direct comparison - but for people that care a lot about biscuits, they can tell.

Our restaurant is almost certainly the cleanest in the neighborhood, which in Taiwan only a discerning customer would notice or care about. Other restaurants aren't filthy but they don't achieve the level of sterility we do.

We remember the names of most people who come in and call them by it when they return.

Hm what else. The fact that we let you choose between American "cheese" (what basically all taiwanese people think cheese is) and actual cheddar cheese if you order a bacon egg and cheese. We make our BEC on a pan with bacon grease and swap to the vegetarian pan sans bacon for vegetarians (non vegetarian restaurants in Taiwan wouldn't bother mostly). Etc.

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