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1. Ygg2+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-09-16 07:04:46
Ignoring the ethics of Mexican drug cartels, they are producing some crucial and consistently demanded products. Like high-volume of drugs and violence that rivals the state.

None of those are easy to achieve.

Sure, it's maybe not great to be impressed by the logistics of a militarized drug cartel, but from a business and systems view it's quite interesting. /sarcasm

This is literally cocaine logic, i.e. because I feel good when taking cocaine, it's good for me. Ergo, cocaine is good.

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2. achene+oI[view] [source] 2024-09-16 14:10:10
>>Ygg2+(OP)
what if you study Mexican drug cartels, and you find that they have a certain method of communication that enables them to communicate more efficiently.

You copy this communication in your non-profit organization that feeds starving children and find that you are able to feed 50% more children when communicating with this more efficient method.

This is not "literally cocaine logic", it's learning from others.

To use an example you'll probably agree with more: You can hate the lyrics of a given musical artist but copy their production style and in doing so give your lyrics a better platform from which to be heard.

Methods != end goals

You can adapt effective methods currently used to accomplish questionable things to accomplish more noble things.

although, to be perfectly honest, I doubt you'd learn much from Mexican drug cartels that would apply to software, as the markets are completely different.

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3. Ygg2+IP[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-09-16 14:51:39
>>achene+oI
> Methods != end goals

Ok, but the methods (hustle, grind-culture, high pressure on marks) are here just as questionable as the end goals (Be the biggest Youtuber).

What can you learn from Mr. Beast? Nothing that a lack of conscience and some basic psychology of engagement couldn't teach you.

To reuse your analogy, what if you could communicate information by arranging the corpses of your enemies in a certain pattern, then use international news reports to get the messages across.

What could this teach us about communication? Nothing.

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4. nother+3c1[view] [source] 2024-09-16 16:59:39
>>Ygg2+(OP)
There are probably business ethics in the cartels as well. They have different core values and risk profiles than conventional businesses but there are likely business operating guidelines and operational ground rules that we can ethics.
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5. nother+cc1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-09-16 17:01:17
>>Ygg2+IP
We learn that they operate on a culture of radical accountability. They are also a pressure cooker organization that micro manages hard and expects employees to pull all nighters
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