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1. __loam+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-09-15 23:27:17
It would help if half the content on this site wasn't highly unethical lol. It feels like the tech industry is having a moment where a lot of us are looking critically at the work we're doing and the effects it has on the society we live in. Sometimes that's not fun but it is important. Sorry if that checks the vibes too much for you.
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2. Karrot+K[view] [source] 2024-09-15 23:34:29
>>__loam+(OP)
Okay so now what effect are you having by making this ethical criticism? Are you changing the ethical outlook of the industry? Are you making a positive ethical impact?

> It feels like the tech industry is having a moment where a lot of us are looking critically at the work we're doing and the effects it has on the society we live in.

I think you grossly overestimate HN's prominence in the tech industry. It was where all the founders hung out 15 years ago. It's now just a place where IT workers talk.

> Sometimes that's not fun but it is important. Sorry if that checks the vibes too much for you.

No I just do what everyone else does which is talk about tech elsewhere. I spent a lot of time over the last 15 years here so I'm sad that the place has changed, but at the end of the day I have several alternatives.

Moreover there's plenty of problems in the world out there. A few wars in progress, a genocide or two. My relatives spent the last few weeks in hiding because a government failed. MrBeast's engagement practices are probably the very lowest of my worries. If only HN comments could change the world...

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3. __loam+g1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-09-15 23:39:40
>>Karrot+K
> Are you changing the ethical outlook of the industry? Are you making a positive ethical impact?

I try pretty hard to only work on companies that have at least a neutral impact on society. Many of them have had an actively positive one.

> I think you grossly overestimate HN's prominence in the tech industry.

It's a good thing I wasn't talking solely about hackernews then.

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4. Glacie+65[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-09-16 00:30:44
>>Karrot+K
Hey everyone, let's take a leaf out of this guys book and only mention ethical concerns if he deems them worthy - like wars for example. Anything lower than that isn't worth mentioning because it kills the vibes. Wonder if he'll see this as he doesn't use this site anymore and talks with the intellectual founder-boys elsewhere...
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5. j33zus+I6[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-09-16 00:54:21
>>Karrot+K
Founders aren’t here, but all the workers are, and they’re overestimating HN’s prominence? Or are you overvaluing the position of founder. Like you’re on some Randian philosophy shit, or something.
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6. twojac+o7[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-09-16 01:02:49
>>Karrot+K
> I think you grossly overestimate HN's prominence in the tech industry. It was where all the founders hung out 15 years ago. It's now just a place where IT workers talk.

You either missed the point of the GP comment, or you think that it's entirely pointless to discuss important issues unless it's with people of prominence. Depressing if it's the latter, but given how you started your post, I'm leaning toward that interpretation. That's some kind of fucked up elitism right there.

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