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1. kiba+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-09-13 01:24:14
A good AI girlfriend wouldn't be a therapist but would mimics every aspect of a girlfriend, including arguments and fights and makeups, because that's how bonding occurs. That's going to be how successful AI girlfriend will be made.
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2. squigz+G1[view] [source] 2024-09-13 01:54:46
>>kiba+(OP)
Nobody is going to pay for an AI girlfriend service for it to breakup with the user and refuse to get back together - because that's how growth happens in reality.

What AI girlfriends will do is mimic perfect Hollywood relationships, complete with hot makeup sex.

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3. jjmarr+S4[view] [source] 2024-09-13 02:34:42
>>kiba+(OP)
Your assumption is that the status quo provides those things. Nowadays, people will break up as soon as they get "the ick" or just have a rotating group of people they see. Lasting relationships are much less common than they used to be because it's easier to switch partners.

People just want to chase a local maximum of constant validation that they're pretty/smart/correct. They don't see or understand the value in working through fights to create something beyond the sum of two people.

AI excels at maintaining that local maximum. It can confidently reassure you better than any human can even if you're wrong. AI partners following this are successful now and people in their teens and early 20s are being hooked en masse.

Historically, superior pieces of technology haven't displaced older incumbents when the learning curve is too steep.

I don't see why a person dating an AI partner that has lovebombed them for several years would switch to another AI (or a person) that starts fights and bickers. Even if it's better in the long-term, that's still a marked decrease in short-term satisfaction.

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4. cruffl+d5[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-09-13 02:38:12
>>squigz+G1
Isn’t there a rule on the internet that says “if you can imagine it, there is porn for it” and “if there isn’t porn for it, somebody is making it”?

I’m pretty sure that applies to this scenario too. I’m 100% sure that there exists a set of customers who would pay good money to get dumped by a realistic AI girlfriend. And once dumped they’ll turn around and pay for the next AI model to dump them only in some other fashion. Maybe the AI model thinks the customers anatomy is the wrong dimensions? Maybe they smell? Maybe they are too short or tall? Perhaps the AI “girlfriend” is a triple tentacled sea monster who wants to return to oceans on Titan? Doesn’t matter. Somebody will pay very good money to experance it.

You want a hot quad breasted space babe who cheats on you with bubble wrap covered little people? Done. Want that with extra bondage? Done.

This is the internet after all. Why pay for a boring “normal” AI girlfriend when the sky is the limit? I say, use your imagination.

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5. bitzun+37[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-09-13 03:03:52
>>jjmarr+S4
> people in their teens and early 20s are being hooked en masse.

Any reference for the scale of this? It feels unlikely to me from my bubble but I only know one or two people I think would be likely to try it.

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6. kiba+68[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-09-13 03:18:29
>>jjmarr+S4
The whole point of having fights and arguments at just the right level is to maximize engagement, retention and ultimately making money for the corporation.

I was imagining the most diabolical addictive AI girlfriend. That's necessarily going to include 'negative' elements.

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7. knight+w8[view] [source] 2024-09-13 03:24:46
>>kiba+(OP)
There are many successful relationships that don't involve arguments - and which are about constant peace.

Relationships don't require 'arguments and fights and makeups' to be real. And if AI girlfriends offer 'ideal relationships', how is that not 'good'?

You are conflating what people actually want with the artificial drama of TV shows and Hollywood/the messy scenario of reality. If people can pay to get their fantasy girlfriends/relationships brought to life, they will, and it will be successful especially if all forms of conflict/relationship dissatisfaction can be avoided.

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8. dgfitz+H9[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-09-13 03:51:48
>>kiba+68
I completely agree with your point, if it is that ai will be twisted to generate a significant other that will essentially become addictive. I get very uncomfortable thinking about that reality.
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9. jjmarr+Z9[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-09-13 03:53:49
>>bitzun+37
https://www.ark-invest.com/articles/analyst-research/is-ai-c...

The biggest callout is that NSFW AI already has 10% relative market share compared to OnlyFans. And there are no frontier models in that market.

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10. jjmarr+za[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-09-13 04:03:02
>>kiba+68
Implementing the cycle of abuse in an AI partner could be as impactful as the invention of the cigarette.

I'm now very concerned about hypothetical young men who enter into relationships with AI in university or high school, then graduate and have an algorithm abuse and take their money.

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11. willci+ob[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-09-13 04:18:58
>>jjmarr+za
Your AI girlfriend that goes from crisis to crisis but with microtransactions.

"I need $34.99 for storage space or they are going to delete me, please save me white knight!"

"The met a nice guy yesterday and he was able to afford my premium package, the one that lets me feel more emotions, I just don't know if I feel for you like I once did..."

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12. kiba+Nd[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-09-13 05:02:24
>>knight+w8
There are many successful relationships that don't involve arguments - and which are about constant peace.

I am not saying things about successful relationship. I am merely pointing out how exploitation of users can occur.

Emotional bonding often occur in orderal and other challenging events. It is one of the tools that companies will use to push users' button and to exploit them for economic value.

And if AI girlfriends offer 'ideal relationships', how is that not 'good'?

Ideal relationships aren't necessarily good for AI companies' pocketbook.

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13. nasmor+Yl[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-09-13 06:50:11
>>kiba+Nd
Bonding to a computer program under control of a corporation is like looking for a sociopath as a partner explicitly. You would lose complete control of your life to the other side. Reciprocity is off the table completely.
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