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1. rafael+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-08-27 12:38:22
At this point it feels like this argument is dead an buried. So many non-native apps on every platform, most platforms even have multiple official GUI toolkits/widget styles so even first party apps are inconsistent.
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2. nine_k+Nd[view] [source] 2024-08-27 14:11:19
>>rafael+(OP)
The most consistently-looking desktop I have runs under Linux. With a few settings and a right theme, all GTK2, GTK3, Qt, and Java apps look and feel pretty much the same, in a pleasant way.

MacOS is a close second, with a few native apps that can't decide exactly what a checkbox or a button should look like.

And Win10 on my wife's machine is a salad, reminding me of Linux desktop experience from 1998.

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3. diggan+dt[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-08-27 15:32:36
>>nine_k+Nd
> And Win10 on my wife's machine is a salad, reminding me of Linux desktop experience from 1998.

This is pretty funny, because if you just use Gnome apps + desktop environment, you have a consistent experience. But if you only use Microsoft/Windows GUIs, panels and applications, it nowhere near as consistent.

So even the Gnome team can build better UI and UX than Windows themselves can, pretty telling.

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4. chrisl+bR[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-08-27 17:21:14
>>diggan+dt
> even the Gnome team

People like to hate on them, but their design is actually really good, innovative and the applications running on GTK are incredibly fast and stable.

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5. nine_k+5Z[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-08-27 17:59:39
>>chrisl+bR
I'm not a fan of some of their UX design decisions, but I must admit that they seemingly know what they're doing, and their execution / implementation is pretty good.

I also hope that, unlike MS, they have no infighting between departments, and no stack ranking.

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6. mixmas+D81[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-08-27 18:46:49
>>chrisl+bR
As long as you don’t use title bars, menus, or scrollbars you’re golden.
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7. diggan+Co1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-08-27 19:57:14
>>chrisl+bR
> People like to hate on them, but their design is actually really good

I'm not complaining/hating, Gnome is my desktop environment of choice since some time ago.

Was more a nod to how awful Microsoft seems to (still) be at UI and UX.

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8. xmicha+DH1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-08-27 21:43:42
>>nine_k+Nd
I couldn't agree more, and would even say more that Windows is just such a mess. Often even new windows programs look like they are from the days of Windows 98.
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