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1. ZeroGr+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-08-27 08:23:41
A tangent but, since AI is good enough to destroy civilization and reign over us like an evil god these days, and translation seems to be one of its strongest points, what's the state of the art with AI translations of out of copyright works of literature?

Free versions available via standard ebooks and Gutenberg are often based on the copyright of the translation and so can be dated or just considered lower quality than other, more recent, translations.

Can you run the older translations through an AI to jazz them up a bit and maybe secretly steal the IP from other translations?

Or, since we're fudging the IP issue anyway, are the underground book pirate rings issuing AI translated versions of Harry Potter (or a more recent equivalent) into niche markets yet?

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2. throwu+A[view] [source] 2024-08-27 08:31:34
>>ZeroGr+(OP)
HP is an interesting example. Due to the book's whimsical nature, the international translators had to come up with very creative translations for certain terms. Any new "unclean" translation should be extremely easy to recognize.
3. probab+D2[view] [source] 2024-08-27 09:05:07
>>ZeroGr+(OP)
Since you chose Harry Potter specifically: the official Spanish translations were always released several months behind the US. Therefore fan groups gathered to make their own versions by scanning the originals on release night, splitting the chapters among subgroups, translate them in parallel, and then merge them back together. All of this in less than a week.

So while certainly not the case for most books, if you have a pirate Harry Potter then there's a fair chance that an actual human did the translation.

Unrelated, sometimes I'd get a fake unofficial chapter and then I'd have to decide on-the-fly whether Draco undressing Harry felt in line with J.K. Rowling's universe so far.

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4. beezle+TK[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-08-27 15:08:49
>>probab+D2
This is also how many manga "scanlation" groups work. Some of the translations are incredible, especially of comedy manga. One, called Grand Blue, is ostensibly a manga about a young man joining a scuba diving club while in uni. In reality, it's a drinking gag manga with an incredibly funny and absurd sense of humor. I can't read Japanese, but apparently the main scanlation group is incredibly good at translating the japanese jokes into english, even going so far to completely rewrite the jokes but keeping the core idea of the joke intact with quite in-depth footnotes explaining and justifying their changes. The translation notes are fascinating in their own right.
5. ben_w+2h3[view] [source] 2024-08-28 10:45:01
>>ZeroGr+(OP)
> since AI is good enough to destroy civilization and reign over us like an evil god these days

While I find AI impressive, I think the demonstration proof that it isn't yet at that level is that ChaosGPT etc. have not already destroyed civilisation.

(OTOH, that someone made ChaosGPT and set it running, is reason to try to stop anyone publishing any better models until they can be proven safe: we don't want to find out something has passed this threshold, whatever that means, via it ending civilisation).

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