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1. marcos+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-08-17 16:26:22
Looks like militarism and imperialism are not compatible at that crazy new 21th century world.

IMO, that's a good development. I hope it lasts.

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2. ein0p+ih[view] [source] 2024-08-17 18:25:03
>>marcos+(OP)
Uh, and what would that mean for the United States? China hasn’t been at war with anyone for decades.
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3. uoaei+Em[view] [source] 2024-08-17 19:01:23
>>marcos+(OP)
The US government has put a lot of effort into isolating China from the Phillippines. It's just statecraft and covert influence campaigns, nothing to do with the moral supremacy of anti-imperialism.

Moralizing arguments such as this one are FUD.

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4. dalius+Cn[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-08-17 19:11:44
>>ein0p+ih
Militarism and imperialism is not about wars only
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5. dareal+Nn[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-08-17 19:13:04
>>uoaei+Em
totally agree, you have to so naive to believe it's not US gov's influence that's maneuvering this behind the scene, just like in Japan, South Korea and other China's neighboring countries.
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6. BobbyJ+Pn[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-08-17 19:13:39
>>uoaei+Em
So tensions between China and the Philippines have nothing to do with China's actions and are just the U.S. performing a psyop?
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7. greyw+xo[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-08-17 19:19:11
>>uoaei+Em
Or maybe its just that china demands all of south china sea for itself up to the phillipine coast. Ah no that must be the fault of the USA too! /s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_South_China_Se...

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8. fdscho+ep[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-08-17 19:24:48
>>uoaei+Em
This comment ignores the facts of Chinese naval activities that many of their neighbors, including the Philippines, are wary of. You can say that US diplomacy is taking advantage of these facts in a way you don't like, but pretending the facts do not exist makes it necessary for people who do know them to ignore you.
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9. quohor+fp[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-08-17 19:24:52
>>uoaei+Em
> It's just statecraft and covert influence campaigns

I'm sure that has something to do with it, but such campaigns are catalyzed by china's military aggression in the south pacific. Morality is an afterthought.

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10. fdscho+xp[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-08-17 19:27:21
>>greyw+xo
It's almost as if they're making their comments from a place where they are unable to read about these Chinese Navy military activities.
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11. aragon+yp[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-08-17 19:27:23
>>uoaei+Em
This is just one example that's come to light, as reported by Reuters:

https://archive.is/ZlCmK

Note:

> Unlike earlier psyop missions, which sought specific tactical advantage on the battlefield, the post-9/11 operations hoped to create broader change in public opinion across entire regions.

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> Nevertheless, the Pentagon’s clandestine propaganda efforts are set to continue. In an unclassified strategy document last year, top Pentagon generals wrote that the U.S. military could undermine adversaries such as China and Russia using “disinformation spread across social media, false narratives disguised as news, and similar subversive activities [to] weaken societal trust by undermining the foundations of government.”

12. lenkit+rX[view] [source] 2024-08-18 01:01:27
>>marcos+(OP)
> Looks like militarism and imperialism are not compatible at that crazy new 21th century world.

Are we talking about good old U.S.A ?

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13. humanl+cl1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-08-18 07:37:55
>>greyw+xo
quote with wiki, not the entire history, genius
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14. uoaei+bD2[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-08-18 21:42:10
>>fdscho+ep
"Ignores" is a strong word, I did nothing of the sort.

The Phillippines has the opportunity to deal with their relationship with China themselves, or the US can whisper in the ears of its leaders to take certain actions, making promises to them that make the offer all but irresistible.

The way you framed your comment makes it seem like you think the Phillippines is what, too noble of a country to bend under US influence?

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15. c_o_n_+Q95[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-08-19 23:42:22
>>uoaei+Em
>The US government has put a lot of effort into isolating China from the Phillippines.

Let's not forget that some of China's isolation is self inflicted. China's nine dash line map, claiming 90% of the South China Sea, only drove their neighbors into the US's open arms.

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16. fdscho+TB5[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-08-20 06:01:12
>>uoaei+bD2
"Ignores" may or may not be a strong word, but it's certainly the most accurate one I can think of to describe what you did. You ignored it. As in you failed to account for what is called outside of China "the elephant in the room." Kind of odd that you find it triggering. It's almost as if you are not being entirely honest.
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