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> Marketing is fundamentally opposed to programming

No it isn’t.

Programmers and marketers both love to believe this but it’s not true. You should instead look at them as complementary rather than oppositional.

>>paulco+(OP)
Can you expound for the curious, like myself? I also see these two fields as diametrically opposed, but I'm open to having my mind changed, despite having a low-grade-but-persistent loathing for marketing in general.

>>0xEF+dg
You both work for the same company towards the same goal.

Can you explain why they are diametrically opposed?

>>0xEF+dg
See my original post for explanation

>>paulco+lx
I did already above the parent comment.

>>0xEF+dg
In all products, there is a problem and a solution. The engineering is how you build the solution. The marketing is how you communicate it to the customers. If the product is well-done and a fit for the market, the customers are happy to hear the communication to know about the solution to their problem. That whole scenario is not opposition, it is multiple roles working towards solving a problem.

Now, people who are bad at one side or the other can make life difficult for the other group. And you do often see that. But flawed execution of the tasks is a problem with how they are done, not an inherent conflict between teams.

>>bloqs+4K2
I don't think you did a great job explaining it but I'll try.

> Marketing is fundamentally opposed to programming, because of the people/things or empathizer/systematizer dichotomy.

I don't understand what you mean here. You are saying that different skill sets are needed to succeed in marketing vs. programming? If so, shocker lol. Different fields require different skills. This doesn't mean that they are in opposition to each other.

> You need to empathise with people in a broad sense

This is true of every job. If you lack empathy you'll never be as good at your job as you think you are.