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1. serial+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-06-18 19:38:52
As far as I know and even learned as a (since failed) physicist, a country needs a good mixture of energy sources. Mind you I went to a university that's nuclear energy focused and even they didn't advocate for full on only nuclear.

In my opinion, if someone says we should just have all nuclear, it means they are dealing in absolutes, maybe God in politics and debate, but they ignore that reality is much more complicated, as technology meets economics and politics (and much more).

(Again, AFAIK) nuclear energy is great when it comes to meeting the "baseline" requirements, roughly the level below which energy consumption of a region never drops. It is because nuclear energy cannot be scaled up and down quickly, so it's not adequate for peaks.

To balance the peaks and keep the network stable, you need energy sources that can increase their output in seconds (or less?).

That's also one of the issues with wind and solar, you can't choose when it is available and when it isn't, so coal etc is still needed to make sure that energy production and consumption is practically equal at all times.

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2. bryanl+J[view] [source] 2024-06-18 19:42:26
>>serial+(OP)
Nuclear is very poor for baseline requirements. Baseline requirements should be met by the cheapest source and more expensive sources should only be added as required to follow demand.
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3. robert+kq1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-06-19 10:27:02
>>bryanl+J
If you price in pollution, doesn't nuclear become the cheapest base load provider?
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4. bryanl+kA1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-06-19 12:04:18
>>robert+kq1
No, not even close.
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5. robert+0E2[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-06-19 19:20:25
>>bryanl+kA1
Fancy elaborating?
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6. bryanl+KM2[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-06-19 20:26:51
>>robert+0E2
Let's say the cost of pollution for a tonne of CO2 is about $100. Using some silly and outdated assumptions, solar power is listed at 41 g CO2 / kWh and therefore has a pollution "cost" of 0.4 cents. The cost of a kWh from a solar panel ranges from 0.5 - 4 cents, so adding the two together is still way under the cost per kWh of nuclear power whether or not you add the 12 g CO2 / kWh carbon footprint of nuclear power.
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7. robert+Ld4[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-06-20 11:50:25
>>bryanl+KM2
Solar power is not base load.
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8. bryanl+Tg5[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-06-20 18:24:34
>>robert+Ld4
Neither is nuclear. You're commenting on an article where France is turning off their nuclear power plants because they have too much solar energy. If they're turning them off, they're not baseload generation.
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