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I grew up around a lot of Seventh Day Adventists who are mostly vegetarian and they had lots of healthy people but _also_ a good few morbidly obese people who had diets with a lot of dairy and carbs. I suspect the latter might have benefited from being able to satisfy cravings for savory with things like lean chicken breast, etc.

I like a plant-based diet myself and have been on and off them over life, but the one habit that seems to keep me healthier than others is avoiding bread, pasta, and cheese.

>>CalRob+(OP)
Ah yes, I've definitely struggled personally with a deep love of cheese and pasta. It's not and can never be a silver bullet. It still requires dilligence. Eating well is such a hassle. SO SO much easier to eat badly.

Edit: it's also statistical, not everyone is going to be healthier.

>>vertis+F
Absolutely! I found most advice about what to eat to be mediocre, and I'm at a decent weight now (185lb/85 kg, long ago I was 280 lb/127 kg - I could stand to lose a few kg but could be worse) and all that really works is what I call "veg mountain". Basically just eating an absolutely enormous amount of vegetables so I actually feel full. Air fryers help a lot for this, brussels sprouts are pretty filling in particular.

I eat meat too, though. Almost entirely chicken and fish. It would be really hard otherwise, though I do like tofu and a lot of meat substitutes.