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1. Pareto+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-04-29 16:06:30
> Nix is a software project, not a social movement.

Upholding the status quo is a social (and political) movement, it's just the most popular and accepted one.

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2. zer00e+oh[view] [source] 2024-04-29 17:17:50
>>Pareto+(OP)
By that rational:

Do you eat food, drink coffee, chocolate. Do you avail yourself of modern pharmacology. Everything you do upholds a status quo of human suffering. You posting on HN is a political statement, from a place of privilege, by that rational.

It's a software project, dont make it political and it will be successful.

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3. orthec+Ar[view] [source] 2024-04-29 18:06:46
>>Pareto+(OP)
I disagree. I think of movements taking input and energy. It is an active and conscious effort to change something. Upholding the status quo is akin to doing nothing. It's not active; it's passive. It's not a movement, it's a stationary. The two seem distinct to me.

I tend to agree with you on a moral/culpability level: passive acceptance is doing something but I wouldn't call it a "movement."

4. lliama+ts[view] [source] 2024-04-29 18:11:45
>>Pareto+(OP)
The mission of reproducible builds is a social mission that will bring good to the world regardless of whether other social goods are achieved.

Trying to tie that mission to other social movements is a strategic error that will more than likely cause Nix to fail in its primary mission while doing virtually nothing meaningful for any of those other causes.

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5. Cthulh+9b2[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-04-30 08:27:12
>>zer00e+oh
Yet you participate in society. Curious.
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6. zer00e+qb3[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-04-30 15:47:02
>>Cthulh+9b2
Yes from a place of massive privilege, just like you, fellow hacker news user.

One that comes at the expense of 1000's of years of marginalized and disenfranchised groups. One that comes at the elimination of entire branches of the family tree.

It's a coin toss that you have neanderthal and densoivan DNA. Those ancestors that we raped and murdered off the face of the earth. And then did that to each other for 1000's of years...

Regardless of what political or social values you believe the reality is that no matter how you envision the world working we're going to have to get in line. Be that for food or iPhones. And a line means there is someone at the back.

It's poor form to complain about the millions of people in front of you when there are billons of them looking at your asshole.

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