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1. Traube+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-02-15 17:48:38
I never understood why fictional cp of any kind is illegal but highly violent content is not.

One can watch people getting tortured to death in "Hostel" or "Saw" in graphic detail on Amazon Prime.

Is it the innocence and defenselessness of children that gets society so riled up?

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2. realfe+h[view] [source] 2024-02-15 17:49:57
>>Traube+(OP)
> Is it the innocence and defenselessness of children that gets society so riled up?

Yes.

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3. stavro+31[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-15 17:53:13
>>realfe+h
Then why is the fictional depiction of dismsembering a child legal, but the fictional depiction of giving a child an orgasm illegal?
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4. almata+P4[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-15 18:10:16
>>stavro+31
It is probably the getting off on seeing those pictures that triggers the visceral response. If I make a movie of a child getting dismembered, I do not have the goal to create a sexual reaction in the audience. In contrast if I make fictional CP, I have the inherent goal in sexually exciting a certain category of people.
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5. stavro+O7[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-15 18:24:14
>>almata+P4
Sure, but when has repressing urges led to anything good? I don't think CP will turn anyone into a pedophile, might as well let people satisfy their urges in a non-harmful way.
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6. almata+S9[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-15 18:32:38
>>stavro+O7
> Sure, but when has repressing urges led to anything good?

I mean we all repress certain behaviors to a certain extent. Some level of repression is healthy. I might have the urge to eat 5KG of ice cream every day but I keep it under control.

> I don't think CP will turn anyone into a pedophile, might as well let people satisfy their urges in a non-harmful way.

If need CP to get off you are a pedophile by definition because you are sexually attracted to children. I guess you meant watching CP will not automatically turn him into a child molester.

It is not that I agree with this new law. I do not see how it is enforceable. But I do see why people have a very negative view of it.

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7. stavro+Bb[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-15 18:38:17
>>almata+S9
> If need CP to get off you are a pedophile by definition because you are sexually attracted to children. I guess you meant watching CP will not automatically turn him into a child molester.

No, I meant a pedophile. It's not like people aren't attracted to children just because they haven't seen a CP video, therefore allowing fictional CP should be OK (it won't convert anyone into a pedophile).

I guess there's an argument to be made that a pedophile watching CP might be tempted to become a child molester, but then we should debate that, not issue blanket bans on fictional CP.

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8. almata+pf[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-15 18:54:00
>>stavro+Bb
> it won't convert anyone into a pedophile

Thanks for clarifying, I misunderstood your earlier point then.

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9. bdjckw+dr[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-15 19:40:27
>>almata+P4
so what was the goal of your child dismemberment movie?
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