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1. minima+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-02-02 02:44:49
It's more the state of modern social media.

Post Elon acquisition, many influential tech figures have discovered that being a provocateur on Twitter/X is more consistently successful at building an audience than genuine insight.

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2. nojs+K[view] [source] 2024-02-02 02:50:19
>>minima+(OP)
Post Elon acquisition? I mean Twitter has always been this.
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3. ekms+O1[view] [source] 2024-02-02 03:00:14
>>minima+(OP)
> implying that wasn't the case always on twitter?
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4. EasyMa+M4[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-02 03:27:58
>>nojs+K
In a way, but now you can make sure your bot's racist post makes it to the top for $8 a month
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5. juped+y5[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-02 03:34:32
>>nojs+K
Many influential commenters have discovered that sniping at Elon Musk is more consistently successful at garnering upvotes than genuine insight
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6. tourma+46[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-02 03:40:16
>>EasyMa+M4
True; before that you simply had to be “notable”, whatever that meant.
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7. tourma+b6[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-02 03:41:25
>>juped+y5
And many have also noticed that few if any care what they have to say outside of that.
8. epcoa+Zf[view] [source] 2024-02-02 05:18:25
>>minima+(OP)
> Post Elon acquisition

Eh? Trump was never there post Elon acquisition. I don’t think that timing makes sense. The tone of Twitter has been like this for years if not the beginning.

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9. TeMPOr+zi[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-02 05:44:48
>>tourma+46
Spending $10 one time with one of many companies that sold likes, follows, retweets, etc. for peanuts.
10. raffra+6l[view] [source] 2024-02-02 06:13:51
>>minima+(OP)
This was the case pre Elon too.

It's human nature. People are social creatures and they love to join some fight as long as they have their own comrades with them.

My wife spent years on Twitter embroiled in a very long running and bitter political / rights issue. She was always thoughtful, insightful etc. She'd spend 10 minutes rewording a single tweet to make sure it got the real point across in a way that wasn't inflammatory, and that had a good chance of being persuasive. With 5k followers, I think her most popular tweets might get a few hundred likes. The one time she got drunk and angry, she got thousands of supportive reactions, and her followers increased by a large % overnight. And that scared her. She saw the way "the crowd" was pushing her. Rewarding her for the smell of blood in the water.

Audience capture is real. Chronically online people with polarised followers will play to their crowd. Inch by inch, day by day, as social creatures, we automatically and subliminally seek approval from our social group. I've seen this type of dynamic push people into the extremes.

My wife got out. First she asked me to block twitter on all of her devices. A month of cold turkey later, she quit for good ,and she's far happier for it.

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11. tarsin+vn[view] [source] 2024-02-02 06:44:38
>>minima+(OP)
But which audience? It seems like with social media nowadays only the absolute numbers count. Influencers are very happy to have an army of dumb followers. I guess it’s easier to well influence them.
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12. asddub+Nu[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-02 07:58:23
>>raffra+6l
thoughtful posts are boring, especially if you already agree with them. but people love a good spectacle
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13. hiAndr+by[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-02 08:32:18
>>asddub+Nu
At the same time, a thoughtful post today can change the entire life direction of a ten years younger you and end up providing far more value to the world overall.

I know that was the case for me. I spent hundreds of hours of reading blog posts by intelligent, optimistic, philosophically transgressive at times but not actually rude or crass folks, all trying to grapple with how to live best in this world. I think this reshaped me to be a much better person in a whole bunch of ways. Very happy for it.

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14. sehans+PC[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-02 09:16:26
>>tourma+46
No, before Elon the blue tick was just a blue tick next to your name. Now posts by blue ticks are also sorted before other posts in the interface.
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15. TeMPOr+7F[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-02 09:45:00
>>sehans+PC
Before Elon, posts on Twitter were sorted and hidden at the whim of engagement-maximizing algorithm. After Elon, the same is the case, maybe with the same tweak to the algorithm.

I thought the idea that timeline sorting order on social media sites is deterministic or scrutable to the viewer is long dead by now - it's not been the case for at least a good decade now!

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16. rsynno+sO[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-02 11:25:24
>>TeMPOr+7F
While that's true, the thing where ~all bluetick replies are promoted above ~all normal replies is a post-Musk 'innovation'. Stupid idea; there's 25 years of experience showing that pay-for-attention is corrosive to social sites (dating/hookup sites have been trying to make it work basically forever, and have generally ended up having to ration it).
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17. mlrtim+131[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-02 13:36:45
>>asddub+Nu
100% Agree, humans love drama. Especially when they aren't in it.

Natural responses to this would be "I don't like drama" and I would say the same, unfortunately this isn't the case for most of humans.

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18. mlrtim+E31[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-02 13:40:26
>>rsynno+sO
The point remains that Pre and Post Musk Twitter are NO different when it comes to inflammatory tweets.

The players and ordering has changed only.

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19. mwigda+1I1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-02 16:50:22
>>raffra+6l
Your wife sounds wise. That's a level of self-awareness and discipline that is not common.
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20. ilrwbw+592[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-02 18:50:30
>>raffra+6l
People gathered up to see public hangings. We just love to see a fight. When Gary Tan acts like a monkey, people line up to see it. Same reason why Elon draws a crowd. Calling people a pedo is the online equivalent of a fist fight and we humans love it.

Should Gary Tan quit over this? Of course not. I think the fact that people put others on a pedestal is a mistake in the first place.

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