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1. nojvek+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-01-28 19:06:49
I am personally pretty opposed to taxing co2 emissions and playing games with carbon credit.

We should not be making energy expensive for the lay person.

Provide subsidies to build new solar, wind and nuclear farms - sure.

The world will quickly adapt renewable energy if it is much cheaper and convenient to use it.

In similar vein, for god sake don’t tax solar panels above usual tax rate. I’m looking at Arizona.

The biggest mistake any democratic government can make is life more expensive and miserable for their population.

That seldom goes well.

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2. ianai+cc[view] [source] 2024-01-28 20:33:16
>>nojvek+(OP)
I kind of agree. Right now, too, what is happening is what you describe. The other options are getting cheaper and will eventually be the cost effective solution. On the other, taxing societal negatives is exactly how to disincentivize them. But at least have an industry for remediating the effects of emissions.

Also see above where I said to build out nuclear asap and at economically significant rates.

3. angra_+3K1[view] [source] 2024-01-29 12:29:17
>>nojvek+(OP)
Question for anyone reading, why do I see some comments (like this one) greyed out? Never understood it.

Is it something like a downvoted comment? I fail to see a downvote button (which I am happy about).

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4. nojvek+ue2[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-29 15:30:55
>>angra_+3K1
If a comment goes below 0 (total votes), it gets greyed out.

I've found HN pretty divided when it comes topics like energy/climate/electric vehicles, immigration and foreign policy.

Before I used to feel bad, now I somewhat expect to be downvoted bringing up anything that doesn't fit someone's worldview.

I lived a decade in Seattle, WA which is a strong blue/liberal state as it goes. Sometimes pretty extreme. Now I am in Florida which is now a solid red state since Trump. It's interesting to see how the thought bubbles and world views have formed.

5. scoofy+HT2[view] [source] 2024-01-29 18:14:50
>>nojvek+(OP)
>The biggest mistake any democratic government can make is life more expensive and miserable for their population.

>That seldom goes well.

We are the richest nation in the world, so calling life "miserable" is hyperbole beyond belief. You talk about this like it's a new problem.

We have been trying to get a carbon tax since literally 1992, but the response is always the type of nonsense your suggesting, which is designed to be feel-good bs.

If we want to stop climate change, we have to change our behavior, period. We could have done that slowly, but we chose to not do it at all.

If you're worried about life being miserable... buckle up.

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6. pas+c84[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-30 00:19:21
>>angra_+3K1
downvote buttons appear somewhere above ~500 karma and as a comment gets old the downvote button disappears
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